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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... m-wage-law
Whatever next. The guy is a buffoon, how would this ever work in a capitalist economy? What about start up companies or small businesses that suddenly make millions.
If a company wants a certain person to lead them why shouldn't it pay what they think is the real market value.(How would they manage the stock/shares or pension aspect of a package that companies use to navigate around the headline salary figure)
Why hold people back just because they earn a lot. Maybe he needs to focus on the mainstream work environment and accept there are high earners.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... m-wage-law
Whatever next. The guy is a buffoon, how would this ever work in a capitalist economy? What about start up companies or small businesses that suddenly make millions.
If a company wants a certain person to lead them why shouldn't it pay what they think is the real market value.(How would they manage the stock/shares or pension aspect of a package that companies use to navigate around the headline salary figure)
Why hold people back just because they earn a lot. Maybe he needs to focus on the mainstream work environment and accept there are high earners.
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| The real point of the thread should be inequality.
But hey, when you've got one thread going on how brilliant Teresa May is, why not throw one in having a pop at Corbyn while you're at it
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| I don't understand inequality. The sad fact of life is we are not equal for many reasons.
Maybe you could share your take on inequality and its link to higher earners
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| Quote: Exiled down south "I don't understand inequality. The sad fact of life is we are not equal for many reasons.
Maybe you could share your take on inequality and its link to higher earners'"
If you don't understand what inequality is, how can you then start a thread linking to an article on inequality? Bizarre.
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| Quote: DGM "The real point of the thread should be inequality.
But hey, when you've got one thread going on how brilliant Teresa May is, why not throw one in having a pop at Corbyn while you're at it
If these really are his ideas, then Corbyn doesn't need any 'help' from Exiled down South regarding him looking like a fool
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| Quote: "I don't understand inequality. The sad fact of life is we are not equal for many reasons. '"
I don't understand [ithe argument around[/i inequality. The sad fact of life is we are not equal for many reasons.
Changed but you knew that anyway.
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| Quote: Exiled down south "I don't understand [ithe argument around[/i inequality. The sad fact of life is we are not equal for many reasons.
Changed but you knew that anyway.
It'd be easier for you to explain what exactly you don't understand, or why you don't think inequality is an issue worthy of trying to address.
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| I saw what you did there.
Maybe you could enlighten me on what it is I don't understand. I know I don't know whereas you know you know.(I think)
Have the baton back
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| Quote: Exiled down south "I saw what you did there.
Maybe you could enlighten me on what it is I don't understand. I know I don't know whereas you know you know.(I think)
Have the baton back'"
How could I possibly know what you don't understand? I don't have access to your mind, nor have you given any opinions or made any points about it for me to address or help me figure out where you stand on it. What a daft thread.
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| Quote: DGM "How could I possibly know what you don't understand? I don't have access to your mind, nor have you given any opinions or made any points about it for me to address or help me figure out where you stand on it. What a daft thread.'"
What I don't understand is how you can state that it is a daft thread it is The Sin Bin after all and our sport is salary capped. It seems to link in well whether you agree with it or not...life imitating (our) sport
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| People thought the national minimum wage would signal the end of the world and now all major political parties have bought into it for political gain. If there is a minimum national wage it is entirely logical there is a maximum too. As for the entrepreneurs, they could pay dividends to supplement therir maxima.
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| The minimum wage protects the vulnerable, encourages people to work, sets a social liveable level.
Capping the Maximum wage is jealousy. The best business leaders create jobs, maintain stable businesses..... Just leave high earners alone. Lets not chase them out of the country.
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| Quote: wire-quin "The minimum wage protects the vulnerable, encourages people to work, sets a social liveable level.
Capping the Maximum wage is jealousy. The best business leaders create jobs, maintain stable businesses..... Just leave high earners alone. Lets not chase them out of the country.'"
Perhaps if some of the highest earners had some social responsibility and didn't just look after number 1, there wouldn't be an issue.
For example, some of the highest businessmen and sportsmen/ celebrities plus, successful business paying a fair amount of tax, there wouldn't be a problem.
Without aspiration, the capitalist model just doesn't work.
Equally, those of us living in a "free" society, wouldn't want to swap that for the communist model of North Korea.
Maybe it's time to do battle with some of the worlds tax havens.
The minimum wage is actually a way of subsidising big business.
If they paid their workers a higher minimum wage, there would be no need for the government to chip in with tax credits and if you boil things down, there is something quite obscene about any person at the top getting £1000's per hour and paying their workers £7.
The person on £7 is probably working hardrer each day that the people in the board room, with a daily battle to put food on the table.
In a civilized society, can this differential be right ?
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| Quote: wire-quin "The minimum wage protects the vulnerable, encourages people to work, sets a social liveable level.
Capping the Maximum wage is jealousy. The best business leaders create jobs, maintain stable businesses..... Just leave high earners alone. Lets not chase them out of the country.'"
Except that most of the high earners are simply managers of established big businsses who haven't an entrepreneurial bone in their body. They sit on cash piles because they are too inept or scared to commit to generating new wealth when it is easier to cut costs (jobs) to gain their overinflated bonuses. I have a real problem with these second rate people running major companies and deducting shareholder value by being grossly overpaid.
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| Quote: Dally "Except that most of the high earners are simply managers of established big businsses who haven't an entrepreneurial bone in their body. They sit on cash piles because they are too inept or scared to commit to generating new wealth when it is easier to cut costs (jobs) to gain their overinflated bonuses. I have a real problem with these second rate people running major companies and deducting shareholder value by being grossly overpaid.'"
Why do you "have a real problem" isn't this a matter a for the shareholders?
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