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What's the rumpus, Tom? [quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="Wigan Peer":1dso5atj]I keep my bin under 30mph to avoid fines... :CURTAIN:[/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="MattyB":1dso5atj]you cant tell me they are all busting for a turd. [/quote:1dso5atj] Please see for me if she's wearing a coat so warm To keep her from the howlin' winds.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44075.jpg



So Admiral car insurance have invoked a hidden "auto renewal" of my multi car policy and whipped nearly £1800.00 quid from my account just before Christmas (a massively inflated price than last year to boot)

the two cars have just had new separate policies set up just last week and i am now insured twice on each vehicle, not to mention well into my overdraft and pretty much skint just 5 days before the big event.

Please people any advice is appreciated if you have experienced similar. As i understand things i can easily retrieve the money but may be liable to pay an admin fee of around £25 to have my own money back (the thought of which absolutely boils my pee pee)

Needless to say i am absolutely seething and would really appreciate it if any "read the small print" type replies are avoided. This is not a feature that should be hidden in an annex of my insurance documents.

The financial ombudsman will be getting called very early tomorrow morning just before i ring Admiral.

The money is one thing, but they really have left me up 5h1t creek here. The timing is abysmal and i am in serious peril of not being able to pay my mortgage this month. Never mind not buying the wife's presents.

Thank you in advance

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The auto renewed policy is still subject to the 14 day cooling off period so you should be able to cancel it within that period and get all your money back. Happened with my travel insureance eariler this year, got my money back no problem once I managed to get through to them.

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What's the rumpus, Tom? [quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="Wigan Peer":1dso5atj]I keep my bin under 30mph to avoid fines... :CURTAIN:[/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="MattyB":1dso5atj]you cant tell me they are all busting for a turd. [/quote:1dso5atj] Please see for me if she's wearing a coat so warm To keep her from the howlin' winds.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44075.jpg



Quote: onewild "The auto renewed policy is still subject to the 14 day cooling off period so you should be able to cancel it within that period and get all your money back. Happened with my travel insureance eariler this year, got my money back no problem once I managed to get through to them.'"


Thanks mate

How long did it take to reimburse you?

Unless they stick the cash back in by close of play Friday i am goosed.

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Pay the £25 fee and wait for the money to come back. If you don't get it back in time get a payday loan or borrow from family / friends.

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Swift sent me notice through three months before then one month before renewal, telling me if I did nothing I would be auto renewed. You not get notices?

Mine came in at just under what I paid last year so pretty happy.

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Quote: tugglesf78 "Thanks mate

How long did it take to reimburse you?

Unless they stick the cash back in by close of play Friday i am goosed.'"


They said it would take up to 7 working days, I got it within 3 I seem to recall.

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What's the rumpus, Tom? [quote="Pemps":1dso5atj]I can't confirm Bennett's exact words but I believe they were along the lines of "Strewth Ian, I wouldn't touch him with yours. He's a flammin' Gala". [/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="Wigan Peer":1dso5atj]I keep my bin under 30mph to avoid fines... :CURTAIN:[/quote:1dso5atj] [quote="MattyB":1dso5atj]you cant tell me they are all busting for a turd. [/quote:1dso5atj] Please see for me if she's wearing a coat so warm To keep her from the howlin' winds.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44075.jpg



Quote: Big Graeme "Swift sent me notice through three months before then one month before renewal, telling me if I did nothing I would be auto renewed. You not get notices?

Mine came in at just under what I paid last year so pretty happy.'"

They sent a renewal quote through the post as is standard with all policies.

As to me scrutinizing it with a fine tooth comb, it is not something that i would normally do. if the quote is higher or not to my liking, then it goes straight in the bin. I have used admiral many times in the past and never had this issue.

I have got a four week old baby in the house and things have been busy, I am pretty confident that no other "we will tAke the cash and renew" type letter has arrived however

If I had been paying monthly then I could forgive a single monthly payment comming out.

If they are going to take the best part of 2 grand in one fell swoop, them the letter (if it exists) should have big red flashing lights attached.

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Quote: tugglesf78 "They sent a renewal quote through the post as is standard with all policies.

As to me scrutinizing it with a fine tooth comb, it is not something that i would normally do. if the quote is higher or not to my liking, then it goes straight in the bin. I have used admiral many times in the past and never had this issue.

I have got a four week old baby in the house and things have been busy, I am pretty confident that no other "we will tAke the cash and renew" type letter has arrived however

If I had been paying monthly then I could forgive a single monthly payment comming out.

If they are going to take the best part of 2 grand in one fell swoop, them the letter (if it exists) should have big red flashing lights attached.'"

Out of interest when did your renewal letter come? Just I'm with Admiral too and I know my insurance expires at end of January and not had anything from them yet.

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Its a lesson learned, it also niggles me that companies can charge a random "admin fee" for almost anything but will refuse to accept or just totally ignore an "admin fee" that you send to them for your time (yes I've done it), however in this case I'd pay up and walk away, they aren't ever going to get your business again, count that as a bit of payback because insurance companies really do rely on you not questioning their renewals and also rely on recommendation.

Its also a really good reason to pay monthly.

And shop around.

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Quote: tugglesf78 "They sent a renewal quote through the post as is standard with all policies.

As to me scrutinizing it with a fine tooth comb, it is not something that i would normally do. if the quote is higher or not to my liking, then it goes straight in the bin. I have used admiral many times in the past and never had this issue.

I have got a four week old baby in the house and things have been busy, I am pretty confident that no other "we will tAke the cash and renew" type letter has arrived however

If I had been paying monthly then I could forgive a single monthly payment comming out.

If they are going to take the best part of 2 grand in one fell swoop, them the letter (if it exists) should have big red flashing lights attached.'"


Phone your bank first, they should class it as an unauthorised withdrawal and reimburse your account immediately

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Quote: cod'ead "

Phone your bank first, they should class it as an unauthorised withdrawal and reimburse your account immediately'"


I've had an identical problem in the past and the bank were not interested because in fact it was authorised [size(see small print).[/size

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Quote: cod'ead "Phone your bank first, they should class it as an unauthorised withdrawal and reimburse your account immediately'"


Really, even if he has agreed to an auto-renewal (which is in Admiral's standard terms)?

My understanding is that the issue of auto-renewal has been looked into and the ombudsman has no real issue with it. In fact, it has been deemed as a useful feature given how many people simple claim to 'forget' to renew their insurance. If it reduces the number of uninsured vehicles on the road (either deliberately or inadvertantly uninsured), then I can't see why the FSA, OFT or MID would oppose it?

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[quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote="Jamie Jones-Buchanan":18jc6kzm]"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire.[/quote:18jc6kzm]:1506.jpg



Quote: tugglesf78 "Needless to say i am absolutely seething and would really appreciate it if any "read the small print" type replies are avoided. This is not a feature that should be hidden in an annex of my insurance documents.
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Translation: "Don't tell me what I don't want to hear."

I really don't understand why people don't read what they have signed up to. Is it laziness, ignorance or something else?

I've been with Admiral before and the auto-renewal thing isn't exactly hidden under mountains of small print - either when you first take the policy or at renewal. Your renewal will say quite explicitly, "if you want to renew, you don't need to do anything". You didn't do anything and they renewed - I fail to see where the confusion lies?

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I would assume that any judge would view auto renewal as something you should opt into rather than opt out of

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Quote: cod'ead "I would assume that any judge would view auto renewal as something you should opt into rather than opt out of'"

.....and by agreeing to Admirals terms and conditions you "opt into" auto-renewal.

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17:30
Catalans
v
Wakefield
 Sun 27th Apr 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
15:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 3rd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
15:00
Leigh
v
Catalans
17:15
Hull KR
v
Salford
19:30
St.Helens
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 Sun 4th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
13:00
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v
Hull FC
15:15
Wigan
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Wakefield
 Thu 15th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
20:00
St.Helens
v
Catalans
 Fri 16th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Sat 17th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
15:00
Hull KR
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 18th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
15:00
Wakefield
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Salford
 Thu 22nd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull FC
 Fri 23rd May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
Hull KR
 Sat 24th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
14:30
Castleford
v
Leeds
17:30
Catalans
v
Wigan
 Sun 25th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
Wakefield
v
Salford
 Thu 29th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Leigh
 Fri 30th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Hull KR
v
St.Helens
20:00
Salford
v
Wigan
 Sat 31st May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
14:30
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sun 1st Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
15:00
Warrington
v
Castleford
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Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
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20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
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Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
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Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
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