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So twice now they voted against a pay rise for NHS workers. Won’t give assurances that NHS staff get free parking. Failed to deliver adequate PPE and lockdown rules as quickly as they could’ve done.

Now this:
“MPs have voted against New Clause 17, with 340 votes to 251.

The New Clause intended to protect the NHS and publicly funded health and care services in other parts of the UK from any form of control from outside the UK.“

Essentially refusing to rule out the sale of the NHS.

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You know certain posters will come back pointing out today's pay rises, but they'll also fail to mention they are out of existing budgets. The cynic in me says the pay rises are to soften the blow of voting against New Clause 17.

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Quote: Willzay "So twice now they voted against a pay rise for NHS workers. Won’t give assurances that NHS staff get free parking. Failed to deliver adequate PPE and lockdown rules as quickly as they could’ve done.

Now this

Get a grip - do you honestly think any right minded commercial enterprise would want to take on the NHS? If a specialist firm was set up only do stents - they could perform them as well as the NHS but cheaper would it be huge issue for the NHS to outsource this clinical work?

The one thing that was protected during the height of Covid was the NHS - they built these Nightingale wards that never got used which suggests the NHS coped pretty well. Have the government not just given the NHS works a well above inflation increase?

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It’s not access to procedures the US wants initially but to have their drug companies to be able to charge their rates rather than the lower figures negotiated by the NHS bulk purchase. This is not to say that they will not at a later date look to add their way with regards private medical insurance.
The vote also questions why the government suggested that the document obtained by Labour was incorrect when this clearly opens the door to outside influence. This is obviously a pattern deny it and then vote to allow it like they also did with regards US food standards.
The headline I guess is “Boris Lied Shock”.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "It’s not access to procedures the US wants initially but to have their drug companies to be able to charge their rates rather than the lower figures negotiated by the NHS bulk purchase. This is not to say that they will not at a later date look to add their way with regards private medical insurance.
The vote also questions why the government suggested that the document obtained by Labour was incorrect when this clearly opens the door to outside influence. This is obviously a pattern deny it and then vote to allow it like they also did with regards US food standards.
The headline I guess is “Boris Lied Shock”.'"



Paying higher pharama costs isn't the same thing as selling off the NHS as Corbyn was shown when he had his ridiculous press conference the day after Neil mauled him.

The document showed nothing of the kind - private medical work is legal and is undertaken by a host of British companies - it takes the pressure off the NHS - no bad thing?

The headline is "don't make a mountain out of a mole hill"

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At least he allowed Neil to interview him rather than dodging all attempts and finally hiding in a fridge. Why block a guarantee of no interference if as they said that no part of the NHS is for sale. I suppose you realise that drugs from America are more costly than those negotiated by the NHS therefore increasing the costs substantially. The next will be that we can no longer afford the NHS in its current form etc.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "At least he allowed Neil to interview him rather than dodging all attempts and finally hiding in a fridge. Why block a guarantee of no interference if as they said that no part of the NHS is for sale. I suppose you realise that drugs from America are more costly than those negotiated by the NHS therefore increasing the costs substantially. The next will be that we can no longer afford the NHS in its current form etc.'"


That worked out well didn't it ?
He all but handed the keys of No 10 to Boris after that utterly disastrous interview,Corbyn would have served the Labour cause better if he had hidden in a fridge!!
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No it would have been better for the many excess deaths if they had shut the door on Johnson.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "No it would have been better for the many excess deaths if they had shut the door on Johnson.'"


Not sure i would condone deliberately suffocating anybody!!!
BLM - Boris Lives Matter.

Just accept the truth,the country preferred a man in a fridge to Corbyn and the Labour party,the fridge could have given a better interview than Corbyn!!
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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "No it would have been better for the many excess deaths if they had shut the door on Johnson.'"

And you, of course, have evidence that a SINGLE death can be attributed to Boris... no, of course you don't, you are typical of all the left wing stagers on here, full of hate and envy of ANYTHING remotely other than rampant socialism.

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Who said suffocate just shut the door because clearly he does not possess the brains to work out how to extract himself without first checking with Cummins. I wonder how many families of the 64,000 who have died wished it was not Johnson’s government in charge.
I guess you should be glad Johnson has only one more PMQ’s to attend for him to be completely owned by Starmer, I particularly like his goldfish look when Starmer shows him to be lying again. Why does he also insist on looking around for help because most of the Conservatives appear to have their heads in their hands in embarrassment.
It is clear that Starmer does not possess the same insecurities and if Johnson follows his usual modus operandi he will ignore the final question and just go on a pre prepared rant blaming the unions for school closures.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "Who said suffocate just shut the door because clearly he does not possess the brains to work out how to extract himself without first checking with Cummins. I wonder how many families of the 64,000 who have died wished it was not Johnson’s government in charge.
I guess you should be glad Johnson has only one more PMQ’s to attend for him to be completely owned by Starmer, I particularly like his goldfish look when Starmer shows him to be lying again. Why does he also insist on looking around for help because most of the Conservatives appear to have their heads in their hands in embarrassment.
It is clear that Starmer does not possess the same insecurities and if Johnson follows his usual modus operandi he will ignore the final question and just go on a pre prepared rant blaming the unions for school closures.'"

Ignoring my question i see, well they do say "they seek him here, they seek him there", SinBin Pimpernell hides behind a keyboard spouting rhetoric and idealogy that has been discredited the world over and certainly since the 80's in the UK.

Starmer wants a known radical muslim terrorist threat back, wonder if he met the Jihadi or Hezbullah with Komrade Cringebin?

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No unlike Cummins he just follows the law. I know it is difficult for Johnson to accept but Starmer does not make the laws but for the last ten years the Conservatives have so why did they not close this loophole.
To be honest I didn’t see your question but yes it can be blamed on Johnson’s government or can you explain how what he did helped keep the death rate down because all I hear is Johnson and slow to act increasing the number of deaths.
I admire your blind stupidity but you actually believe he has done no wrong and the reason we have one of the highest death rates is down to the failure of others if so please explain to we the unbelievers.
I now wait your vindication for what you believe.

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Quote: Scarlet Pimpernell "No unlike Cummins he just follows the law. I know it is difficult for Johnson to accept but Starmer does not make the laws but for the last ten years the Conservatives have so why did they not close this loophole.
To be honest I didn’t see your question but yes it can be blamed on Johnson’s government or can you explain how what he did helped keep the death rate down because all I hear is Johnson and slow to act increasing the number of deaths.
I admire your blind stupidity but you actually believe he has done no wrong and the reason we have one of the highest death rates is down to the failure of others if so please explain to we the unbelievers.
I now wait your vindication for what you believe.'"

When you can formulate a coherent sentence I will reply.

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Bless, you have no answer, I knew there was a reason I should just ignore what you post.

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Whitehaven
v
York
       League One 2024-R22
15:00
Oldham
v
Workington
15:00
Rochdale
v
Keighley
 Thu 5th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
10:50
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Melbourne
 Fri 6th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
09:00
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11:00
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Sydney
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
17:15
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v
St.HelensW
17:30
LeedsW
v
FeatherstoneW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
20:00
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v
Leigh
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Warrington
v
St.Helens
20:00
Wigan
v
Hull KR
 Sat 7th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
06:00
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v
Canberra
08:30
Canterbury
v
NQL Cowboys
10:35
Penrith
v
Gold Coast
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
BarrowW
v
Hudds W
       Championship 2024-R25
15:00
Barrow
v
Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
18:00
Salford
v
Catalans
 Sun 8th Sep 2024
     National Rugby League 2024-R27
05:00
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v
Cronulla
07:05
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v
Dolphins
     Womens Super League 2024-R13
12:00
WiganW
v
York V
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R25
15:00
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LondonB
       Championship 2024-R25
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15:00
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Dewsbury
15:00
Sheffield
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Featherstone
15:00
Wakefield
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Widnes
v
York
 Fri 13th Sep 2024
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
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v
Hull KR
20:00
St.Helens
v
Castleford
20:00
Wigan
v
Leeds
 Sat 14th Sep 2024
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14:00
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v
York V
14:00
St.HelensW
v
BarrowW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
Hull FC
v
Salford
       Championship 2024-R26
15:00
Barrow
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Bradford
v
Batley
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Swinton
15:00
Doncaster
v
Widnes
15:00
Featherstone
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
York
17:00
Toulouse
v
Halifax
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
20:00
Catalans
v
LondonB
 Sun 15th Sep 2024
     Womens Super League 2024-R14
12:00
WiganW
v
LeedsW
14:00
Hudds W
v
Wire W
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R26
15:00
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v
Warrington
 Fri 20th Sep 2024
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19:30
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v
York
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20:00
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v
Castleford
20:00
Hull FC
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull KR
v
Leeds
20:00
Leigh
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
LondonB
20:00
Wigan
v
Salford
 Sat 21st Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
18:00
Featherstone
v
Dewsbury
18:00
Widnes
v
Toulouse
19:30
Wakefield
v
Barrow
 Sun 22nd Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R27
15:00
Batley
v
Swinton
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Doncaster
 Sat 28th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
17:00
Toulouse
v
Batley
 Sun 29th Sep 2024
       Championship 2024-R28
15:00
Barrow
v
Widnes
15:00
Bradford
v
Swinton
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Sheffield
15:00
Wakefield
v
Doncaster
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Halifax
15:00
York
v
Featherstone
 Sun 27th Oct 2024
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v
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     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
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Sat 3rd Aug
SL
15:00
Hull FC-St.Helens
SL
17:30
Salford-Leeds
Sun 4th Aug
SL
15:00
LondonB-Catalans
Thu 8th Aug
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Salford
Fri 9th Aug
SL
20:00
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SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
Sat 10th Aug
SL
15:00
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Sun 11th Aug
SL
15:00
Leigh-Hull FC
SL
15:00
LondonB-Warrington
Sat 17th Aug
SL
19:30
Warrington-Leeds
SL
17:00
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
14:30
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:30
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:00
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:30
Huddersfield-Castleford
Fri 23rd Aug
SL
20:00
Castleford-Warrington
SL
20:00
Leeds-Catalans
Sat 24th Aug
SL
15:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
SL
14:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Sun 25th Aug
SL
15:00
LondonB-Leigh
Fri 2nd Aug
SL 20 Warrington4-22Hull KR
NRL 22 NZ Warriors20-30Parramatta
NRL 22 Dolphins34-40Sydney
Thu 1st Aug
SL 20 Castleford10-20Leigh
SL 20 Wigan26-14Huddersfield
NRL 22 Wests30-48NQL Cowboys
Sun 28th Jul
NRL 21 St.George10-46Penrith
NRL 21 Dolphins14-21Gold Coast
NRL 21 Canberra32-12Souths
CH 19 Batley16-22Halifax
CH 19 Doncaster37-30Barrow
CH 19 Sheffield78-24Whitehaven
CH 19 Wakefield46-18Featherstone
CH 19 Widnes25-6Bradford
CH 19 York34-4Swinton
L1 17 Newcastle34-44Cornwall
L1 17 Hunslet24-32Workington
L1 17 Keighley36-12Midlands
L1 17 Rochdale10-14Oldham
Sat 27th Jul
SL 19 Salford30-22Castleford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Hull KR 20 503 259 244 30
Wigan 19 495 258 237 30
Warrington 20 502 267 235 28
Catalans 19 366 274 92 24
Salford 19 355 366 -11 24
St.Helens 19 455 256 199 22
 
Leeds 19 355 342 13 20
Leigh 19 392 286 106 19
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 20 336 523 -187 13
Hull FC 19 268 566 -298 6
LondonB 19 198 725 -527 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 17 584 206 378 32
Sheffield 17 488 283 205 24
Toulouse 16 468 220 248 23
Widnes 17 410 307 103 21
Bradford 17 397 297 100 21
Doncaster 17 318 410 -92 17
 
York 18 428 345 83 16
Featherstone 17 440 359 81 16
Batley 17 284 366 -82 16
Swinton 17 342 422 -80 12
Halifax 17 318 459 -141 12
Barrow 16 255 458 -203 12
Whitehaven 17 336 556 -220 12
Dewsbury 18 224 560 -336 2
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