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"Cases" are of no major interest at this point; it's just a positive PCR result for SARS-COV2. Besides we had no sophisticated wide spread billion pound mass testing system in place last summer. We were only conducting around 100,000 tests a day whereas we are now testing over a million people.
Correct me if I'm wrong but lockdown was eased on 15th June last year; all non-essential shops were allowed to re-open along with galleries, museums, pubs, restaurants and cinemas. From 6 July, non-essential overseas travel was permitted. On 25th July indoor gyms, pools and other sports facilities reopened. As restrictions were lifted we didn't see this level of hospitalisation/deaths until October last year.
Looking at the Governments published figures I'm not convinced by this vaccine programme at all. I suppose we will find out if I'm wrong in October.
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| Quote: DHM "Good news, not so good news week.
Not so good news: vaccine breakthrough data compared to initial correlates of protection from Oxford Uni is starting to show that Covid can infect most people who are vaccinated, only 20-25% have sufficient neutralizing antibody response to prevent actual infection.
Good news: Vast majority have an overall antibody response that protects and prevents symptomatic infection (you are infected but don't realise). That particular antibody response can be accurately measured and correlates with severity (or lack of) symptoms. Hardly anyone vaccinated will show severe symptoms. Also it does appear that vaccinated individuals are less likely to infect others due to the lack of viral load developing.
Personally I see this as a warning that "herd immunity" will not be attained with this virus and it will become endemic like the other circulating coronas. I will be continuing to wear masks in shops etc. and take basic precautions, I think everyone should do that for some time for the time being. I don't believe another lockdown makes any sense, but we should all consider basic safe working practices where practical. Would be helpful if the young people dithering got vaccinated as well. It will definitely reduce the spread. Maybe free pizza will do the trick ![]()
Every single point you made there was made by the scientists 6 months ago. When you say “personally” or “I believe” it’s on the back of what the scientists have already told us so at least give them the credit
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He is one of the scientists!
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| Quote: Poky "Every single point you made there was made by the scientists 6 months ago. When you say “personally” or “I believe” it’s on the back of what the scientists have already told us so at least give them the credit'"
Says the ignoramus who can’t even spell Poki correctly  |
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Talk here (NZ) that Australian (NSW anyway) Kids may not return to their classrooms until January 2022. Cases on the rise and they are well behind the 8 ball (as we are) in terms of vaccinations, so I can see that they will lock down for a month or longer and then vaccinate as many people as possible before going down the UK herd strategy come December....not sure where that leaves us in New Zealand, but I doubt we will have open borders, vaccinated or not, for at least another year.
I think we have 5 years of people being sensible before we will have a chance of normality.....wearing masks, hygiene, distancing etc.....Kids will develop immunity first......this will continue to kill old people but like the flu jab it'll drop the numbers....
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| Quote: Poky "Every single point you made there was made by the scientists 6 months ago. When you say “personally” or “I believe” it’s on the back of what the scientists have already told us so at least give them the credit'"
All the information I quoted I saw last week. I wasn't making "points" I was sharing information. For example the data for the Pfizer booster was published in the Lancet on the 29th July.
As a published author on Covid I think I qualify to have an opinion also. |
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