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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "I don't think I am - you could put the whole GDP of this country into the NHS and it still wouldn't be sufficient. Where do you stop - what is the correct funding level?
Was the underfunding the route course of all these people getting Covid in hospital or a lack of simple cleanliness? It certainly wasn't due to a lack of staff or products as a big chunk of the staff weren't actually working.
The NHS proved it couldn't function when the pressure ramped up it became the National Covid Service and it didn't do a great job of that - highest death rate in Europe, highest death rate per million population in the world. Who sent all the infected pensioners back to care homes etc. etc.
The service needs a massive overhaul and as a population we need to decide what we actually want from a health service?'"
Compared to other G7 countries our proportion of GDP spent on healthcare is quite low and actually fell between 2013 and 2017 (most recent figures I found). With an ageing population, I doubt continuing to spend less, as a % of GDP, is sustainable.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... 2019-08-29
I agree that some sort of national conversation about provision of healthcare would be valuable. However, the difficulty from my perspective is who would be framing it. There is no point engaging seriously with people you don’t trust, you just have to do what you can to resist.
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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "I don't think I am - you could put the whole GDP of this country into the NHS and it still wouldn't be sufficient. Where do you stop - what is the correct funding level?
Was the underfunding the route course of all these people getting Covid in hospital or a lack of simple cleanliness? It certainly wasn't due to a lack of staff or products as a big chunk of the staff weren't actually working.
The NHS proved it couldn't function when the pressure ramped up it became the National Covid Service and it didn't do a great job of that - highest death rate in Europe, highest death rate per million population in the world. Who sent all the infected pensioners back to care homes etc. etc.
The service needs a massive overhaul and as a population we need to decide what we actually want from a health service?'"
Compared to other G7 countries our proportion of GDP spent on healthcare is quite low and actually fell between 2013 and 2017 (most recent figures I found). With an ageing population, I doubt continuing to spend less, as a % of GDP, is sustainable.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... 2019-08-29
I agree that some sort of national conversation about provision of healthcare would be valuable. However, the difficulty from my perspective is who would be framing it. There is no point engaging seriously with people you don’t trust, you just have to do what you can to resist.
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| Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "That's democracy surely both have the same options - if you don't agree you can act either sell the shares or leave the union - its the same. Once you pay in to Unite you have no say in how Big Len spends it.'"
If you read my post again you'll see that there is a difference.
You can be a Union member and opt out of the political donation - even if the majority of Union members opt in. That is in stark contrast to being a shareholders. If the majority of shareholders agree with giving a political donation then the minority have to go along with that decision - or leave.
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| Quote: silver2 "This government has consistently shown its incompetence, its ability to lie and its ability to direct tax payers money towards its donors and friends. Consequently, its hardly surprising that people are questioning why test and trace has cost so much and where the money's gone. No doubt there will be a public enquiry once all the dust has settled - and once Johnson ( the ex PM) is touring America on a lucrative book and lecture tour.'"
And yet people still vote for them. Why? Because the alternative is an utter shambles
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| Quote: Steph Curry "And yet people still vote for them. Why? Because the alternative is an utter shambles'"
LOL
Kobe Bryant’s wife must be so relieved you didn’t take her late husbands name for your Nic ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote: Superblue "LOL
Kobe Bryant’s wife must be so relieved you didn’t take her late husbands name for your Nic
That'll be his next username...
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| Quote: King Street Cat "That'll be his next username...'"
Kobe Bryant's wife?
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