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Quote: kill all whites "I think you’ve pretty much answered your own question there. Unless you’re saying that discrimination only becomes an issue when it is absolute and all opportunities are denied.

I like ‘equality’ in inverted commas, and ‘justice’ later on. Obviously, it’d be childish of me to start doing it with another abstract concept, such as ‘sovereignty’, and, equally obviously, that won’t be stopping me. Gammons want ‘sovereignty’, yes? So tell me, what challenges faced a gammon that aren’t there following our departure from the EU? I don’t deny that membership of the EU meant some pooling of ‘sovereignty’ but did it remove all our political, economic and legal independence?'"

Another false equivalence. Leaving the EU wasn't a matter of overcoming 'challenges' but preferences. I simply preferred not to be ruled by an undemocratic body in another country, and disagree with the concept and ideology of the EU and its leaders.

A young black kid has access to free education until the age of 18. They have access to apprenticeships and training. They have all the tools at their disposal for a good start in life into a career. Racism does not deny them any of that. The challenges they might face come down more to home life, peer pressure, aptitude and the community he/she steps into each morning, which includes a higher rate of single parent households than any other ethnicity. That's before we even talk about culture. None of this is due to racism.

Quote: kill all whites "Are you suggesting that all black people carry knives or are involved in drugs and casual criminality, or that only those that are, are harassed by the police? In which case it wouldn’t really be harassment, in fairness. If you’re saying it is a skin colour thing and innocent black people have to expect harassment or discrimination because of what black criminals do, that seems strange to me. I think it’d be unfair, and frankly ridiculous, for me to be judged based on the worst actions of other white people or be racially profiled, for example, as the sort of person who associates political protest with lager.'"

That's a very 'Cathy Newman' response, I expect better from you. icon_wink.gif

Rightly or wrongly, it's a fact blacks are more likely to be carrying knives or committing crime in London. That's indisputable. The arrest rate of blacks (35 per 1,000) is 3.5 x whites (10 per 1,000) in England/Wales. It's pretty simple: if you're a copper working in a black community in which there are daily stabbings and other criminality committed by mainly young black males, you are going to keep an eye on and check young black males. Yes, innocents will get caught up in this, but what is the alternative?

Perhaps we could copy the US? 'Autonomous Zones' popping up in cities where police are not permitted to enter. It's going REALLY, REALLY well. icon_lol.gif

Regardless, the point is it doesn't really matter how much virtue signalling is going on - you can only achieve change by raising black communities out of poverty, changing racist minds and by removing the culture of casual criminality, drugs and the lure of a gangster lifestyle over a pretty dull 'normal' working life. Telling every white in the UK just how racist we all are over and over and over and tearing down our history and attacking our police, threatening to "kill all whites" and posting dozens of videos of attacks on lone whites is only creating massive division.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "These tables relate to the US - what has that got to do with the UK death by age?'"


I didn't say UK and in your question neither did you, I quoted death rates from covid. They are pretty much identical across the globe in every country and this is a good example table. Only variations are in countries like India and some of the developing countries where higher percentages of deaths are starting to appear in younger people.
I could have posted the UK figures for last week, the percentages are roughly the same.

Where did you get your data from?

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Well those last four years were some crazy ****.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "I am not talking about the likes of JHB, Morgan and Young I am talking about the likes of Sridar and Gupta who educate our university students - are you saying they are not experts?'"


You did mention JHB so I did.

As for Gupta, yes, she's an epidemiologist but maybe you should watch this cringeworthy interview with Andrew Neil from October, where in the first 2 minutes makes a total fool of herself by saying (prompted by the human potato) the 50,000 cases per day projected by the governments advisors was nonsense. Where did we get to? 85,000 on one day in December?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxrG4hW3q2s

Gupta has been on the fringe of the scientific consensus since the beginning of the pandemic and is a strong proponent of herd immunity. Many of her predictions have been proved to be false and she has a poor track record on predictions.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... oronavirus

Herd immunity, the Great Barrington Declaration and the "Libertarians" behind it. Have a read of this.
https://arena.org.au/the-coming-covid-s ... claration/
It's not entirely critical and I think a well balanced review. We should not discount alternatives, that's counter productive - all options on the table.

The problem with Gupta in particular is that she's made grand statements and assumptions that have proved to be very, very inaccurate or just plain wrong. She also seems incapable of re-assessing her own position..

To be honest you can find all this out for yourself, I don't know why I'm doing it for you.


I actually work with some of the guys in the Oxford Zoology department, spoke to one of them today in fact. They are doing interesting work on Covid.
Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "I am not talking about the likes of JHB, Morgan and Young I am talking about the likes of Sridar and Gupta who educate our university students - are you saying they are not experts?'"


You did mention JHB so I did.

As for Gupta, yes, she's an epidemiologist but maybe you should watch this cringeworthy interview with Andrew Neil from October, where in the first 2 minutes makes a total fool of herself by saying (prompted by the human potato) the 50,000 cases per day projected by the governments advisors was nonsense. Where did we get to? 85,000 on one day in December?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxrG4hW3q2s

Gupta has been on the fringe of the scientific consensus since the beginning of the pandemic and is a strong proponent of herd immunity. Many of her predictions have been proved to be false and she has a poor track record on predictions.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... oronavirus

Herd immunity, the Great Barrington Declaration and the "Libertarians" behind it. Have a read of this.
https://arena.org.au/the-coming-covid-s ... claration/
It's not entirely critical and I think a well balanced review. We should not discount alternatives, that's counter productive - all options on the table.

The problem with Gupta in particular is that she's made grand statements and assumptions that have proved to be very, very inaccurate or just plain wrong. She also seems incapable of re-assessing her own position..

To be honest you can find all this out for yourself, I don't know why I'm doing it for you.


I actually work with some of the guys in the Oxford Zoology department, spoke to one of them today in fact. They are doing interesting work on Covid.


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Quote: DHM "I didn't say UK and in your question neither did you, I quoted death rates from covid. They are pretty much identical across the globe in every country and this is a good example table. Only variations are in countries like India and some of the developing countries where higher percentages of deaths are starting to appear in younger people.
I could have posted the UK figures for last week, the percentages are roughly the same.

Where did you get your data from?'"


I think you knew very well I was quoting the the UK - and quoting one week is hardly representative.

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Quote: Zoo Zoo Boom "I think you knew very well I was quoting the the UK - and quoting one week is hardly representative.'"


Sadly, that one week will have included thousands of 'events' (deaths), so the sample size isn't small and likely is representative.

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