So, no answers. Nothing. More rhetoric, no answers. You're all clamouring for 'equality', 'justice' etc - but what does it look like? Third time of asking.

You call it a Mail editorial, I wouldn't know. But show me anything inaccurate in my post. Anything. Typical of the left, belittle and dismiss the inconvenient truth if it doesn't support the victim narrative.

Tell me, who exactly is unequal in the eyes of the law?

And yes, take a knee just like Dominic Raab, the first person in authority to show a pair of cojones, unlike Labour who capitulated at the first opportunity. You might be surprised to know the majority haven't taken a knee and have no intention of doing. You probably assume that means everyone is racist, and that's part of the problem.

Race relations in the UK have regressed 30 years in the last month. There's far more division now than in decades.

Anyway, another question you didn't answer - have you taken a knee?

I won’t bother going into all your posts as you never seem to respond to any facts. You quote Attenborough and Bonin. Im not sure anyone advocated them being paid the same. But I can safely say that Lineker £1.75 m is not worth 10 x Clare Balding £175 k. Nor is Jeremy. BOwen or Jon Sopel whom I like both off , worth x2 of Carrie Gracie who I also like. That was a gender pay gap which was working for decades.

Was it not the same Dominic Raab who as the Brexit minister did not realise the importance of Dover to our trade.

Perhaps, but illegal immigration and multiculturism are different things.




I think you’ve pretty much answered your own question there. Unless you’re saying that discrimination only becomes an issue when it is absolute and all opportunities are denied.

I like ‘equality’ in inverted commas, and ‘justice’ later on. Obviously, it’d be childish of me to start doing it with another abstract concept, such as ‘sovereignty’, and, equally obviously, that won’t be stopping me. Gammons want ‘sovereignty’, yes? So tell me, what challenges faced a gammon that aren’t there following our departure from the EU? I don’t deny that membership of the EU meant some pooling of ‘sovereignty’ but did it remove all our political, economic and legal independence?



Are you suggesting that all black people carry knives or are involved in drugs and casual criminality, or that only those that are, are harassed by the police? In which case it wouldn’t really be harassment, in fairness. If you’re saying it is a skin colour thing and innocent black people have to expect harassment or discrimination because of what black criminals do, that seems strange to me. I think it’d be unfair, and frankly ridiculous, for me to be judged based on the worst actions of other white people or be racially profiled, for example, as the sort of person who associates political protest with lager.

I think the point Cronus has some validity - if things are going to improve it can't all be due to "white people" changing their behaviour - the "blacks" have to play their part. Perhaps if they provided a stable home environment that might encourage their kids to focus on their education and their ultimate aspirations?

Nooo, it has to be based on smacking your bitch up, shooting, selling drugs, we cannot possibly deny their culture. Hoe's and Bro's, da fruiture, innit...? put a cap in da ass and smite the honkey....

No wonder we have issues of cohesion in this country!!

cohesion works, problem is when the limited brains on the fringes claim to speak for the majority.

I disagree - the problem is the cultural differences are insurmountable and getting wider as the ethnic communities grew and gain confidence. As I have said before who sold the slaves? Their inhumanity to each other e.g. honour killings, sharia law, their views on homosexuality etc smacks of cultures that haven't been capable of moving on.

I disagree, no the problem is bored individuals switching allegiance to suit their loneliness.. stay safe.

We’re all responsible for our actions as individuals, and the same rules and judgements should apply, irrespective of colour. And tbf, that is all anybody is asking for (well, apart from banning the coco pops monkey and what have you - some individual people’s words deserve to be judged as stupid, irrespective of colour). In terms of addressing racism in the UK, it does largely have to be about changing attitudes among white people - for the simple reason that white people are the dominant majority. But yeah, we should do it together - none of that poop where one group is singled out as problematic and has to go to specialist citizenship classes. It isn’t my fault I’m the same colour as the majority of those that need most help with this issue, and their views and actions shouldn’t reflect on me as an individual or place a burden on me.



That’s an interesting grab bag. Certainly the White Anglosphere is a long, long, LONG way from being alone in working through its cultural baggage. But equally it doesn’t always do a brilliant job of moving on either - Confederate flags and yearnings for lost Empire and deference from darker folk, for example. You just have to try to take forward the good and leave behind the bad - which’ll often be a subjective judgement. But, we’d all agree, I’m sure that racism, despite its prevalence, is stupid and best left behind us. I mean, look at examples elsewhere in the world that don’t even involve white people and try to rationalise them. Fundamentally they are the same thing, and fundamentally they’re as ridiculous as they horrible.