I didn't know about that. Seems like a genuine error though she was pretty quick to remark before ascertaining the facts.


True, JP can become a little tiresome in his delivery. I enjoy what he says far more than how he says it.

I didn't watch the link on Cummings. I'd be interested if you or Sally came across it again, simply to get a better idea of what he's about.

What about Dominic Cummings who’s circle I am pretty sure you would not reach, his trip to Barnard Castle was deemed to have been unlawful and if intercepted by the police would have been instructed to return home. If it was lawful based on the same criteria one would presume he would have been instructed to carry on.
I dread to think what action they would have taken if stopped and him coming up with the eye sight excuse. You may not associate with him but you are happy to accept his lockdown breaking therefore what is he.

Well for a start they're British National (Overseas) or BN(O) passport holders, which doesn't currently give them the right to live or work here, but gives them right to remain for 6 months.

The government are considering extending right to remain to 12 months and there is a train of though that modern immigration laws would permit right of abode though this appears to run contrary to the 1984 Sino-British joint declaration on the future of Hong Kong.

What do I think? I think if it's legal, fair enough and I can certainly empathise with the desire to escape the Chinese regime. It's unlikely 300,000 would seek abode in the UK as other nations would probably open their arms, but it's worth considering the impact a couple of hundred thousand would have in addition to normal net migration of about 230k a year.

It is Dominic Cummings speech at IPPR in 2014.

Obviously, it is against the rules to post links to video sharing sites - but this has been made available by the Institute of Public Policy Research themselves, so I think I’m sticking to the spirit of the rules by hinting at how you might find it. If this leads to lots of people posting links to copyrighted materials, then, because I suspect Admin value me less as a moderator than Johnson values Cummings as an advisor, I’ll be sacked from my unpaid role. So, everyone, please don’t.

I can’t easily give you a weblink anyway as I have the App on my iPad, and I can’t work out how.

The speech and Q&A is a bit longer than I remembered, but as I say I found it interesting.

Bit of a difference between someone who went into isolation with his family, didn't break any social distancing guidelines, and whose biggest sin was an ill-advised drive. And I've already said his Barnard Castle excuse is a stretch of the imagination. But Durham police happen to have reached the same conclusion as me: it was minor and frankly give over whining.

Counter that with someone who boasts repeatedly of breaking lockdown to go bone some desperate rancid skank - and if he's doing that and boasting about it that it's fair to assume he blatantly doesn't give a sh.t about you, me, his neighbours, his family or anyone else, and has been breaking the lockdown throughout.

Fact is, the biggest threat with this virus is not going for a drive with your family, the biggest threat is promoting the spread of the virus via personal contact.

It's one thing thinking with your dick (although tiny it's probably his most intelligent organ), but bragging about it takes a particularly despicable type of person.

Did Cummings not return to number 10 after visiting his wife who he believed to have the virus. I wonder how many people he came into contact between leaving home and his time at number 10.

And although not a single one of you has had the balls to criticise our resident smackrat, will any of you step up to denounce Andy Dawson - the sometime Guardian columnist, podcaster, colleague of Bob Mortimer and outspoken left winger, who tweeted to Michael Gove's WIFE that he would pay cash to assault her husband, specifying he would prefer to do this in front of her kids?

Oh, and he then deleted his twitter and complained of 'vile harassment' (lol), but not before filming himself requesting opportunities to pay for someone to assault Michael Gove.

Anyone? One of you?

Nah, doubt it. He's one of yours, ain't he? It's ok if it's one of yours.

We could also comment on Johnson who was recorded being asked to obtain the address of a journalist to his friend who wanted to arrange his beating.
You will of course want to denounce this type of action.

Never heard of him, but assuming that is true and there are no extraordinary extenuating circumstances (e.g. extreme previous provocation by Vine or Gove) that is clearly very, very bad.




Also very, very bad. 30 years ago, and I know about his classicist warrior caste self-image. Easier to carry off if he looked like Gerard Butler in 300 rather than a middle-aged albino Billy Bunter.

Absolutely
But the Sin Bins very own baby from the bullrushes won't worry about things like that .

My understanding of the not making unnecessary journeys advice was to limit the number of vehicles on the road, to limit the risk of road traffic accidents, to ensure hospital beds weren't taken up by Sunday drivers taking unnecessary journeys.