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| Quote: Cronus "If you have something booked for the next 2 months or so, wait. It's highly likely there will be almost zero aircraft in the skies in a week or two as airlines start to ground fleets and therefore cancel almost all flights. Many have grounded significant proportions of their fleets, some have stopped operating altogether. Some will never come back from this, but that's another discussion.
If the airline or tour operator cancels, you get a full refund. If you cancel while the flight is still scheduled to operate, you only get money back as per fare rules, perhaps minus a fee or only just a few taxes - often regardless of political advice at either end. Some airlines are holding out on some routes and keeping the flights scheduled in the hope passengers will cancel and they keep the money. Emirates is one. We'll have to see if they cancel at short notice.
If they offer a free change to later in year - up to you. Take it or insist on a full refund, after all they can't fulfil the flight.
Will insurance pay? Depends on your policy. Based on the "all but essential travel" advice some will - but some won't. No policies taken out from this week will.
And remember things are changing hour to hour. It may - and probably will - reach the point of instruction rather than advice, and then total lockdown in which case insurance should almost certainly pay if the airlines play hardball.
Right now anyone living in the UK travelling overseas for anything other than a truly critical or COVID19-related reason needs a slap.'"
Thank you for the advice, Luckily were not travelling until October, and could get messy if its not all sorted by then as were travelling to 3 different destinations and they have all been booked separately. Also and on the advice of Martin Lewis we took out insurance a couple of weeks ago. However, for people about to go on holiday I do think the advice from the Foreign office was a bit wooly by only advising UK citizens not to fly. | | |
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| Quote: Cronus "RLFans wouldn't be half as much fun if I hadn't. ![]()
Yeah, it seems like the "cliff edge" prediction was right too ?
You'll be telling us that, it's got nothing to do with Brexit and finding something or someone else to blame, just as I said you would 
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Anyone been looking back at the Prof. John Ashton timeline of events?
He basically said exactly what would happen on Question Time back in early March, and was of course ridiculed, especially when he was found to have Labour connections.
Many right wing social media accounts jumped straight on him. One described him as a 'loony hardcore Corbynista lefty', so of course, the smears gained traction. There was the usual anti-semitic smear, various pastings in the tabloids, and calls not to politicise the situation. They also got him on the old 'labour activist' smear when he appeared on Panorama.
Anyway, turns out he was bang on.
It's an interesting rabbit hole to disappear down. Start with Question Time on March 12, then look at social media and news articles from after the show. This article from a month later gives a decent roundup of what happened, there's a clip from his appearance on QT, too.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/p ... ssion=true
Here are some tweets from the show on March 12. Have a look at some of the replies. It's 'the public have had enough of experts' in a nutshell. Also check out Fiona Bruce's face of disdain when he mentions care homes in the second tweet's video.
https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcquestiont ... 9689631745
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Anyone been looking back at the Prof. John Ashton timeline of events?
He basically said exactly what would happen on Question Time back in early March, and was of course ridiculed, especially when he was found to have Labour connections.
Many right wing social media accounts jumped straight on him. One described him as a 'loony hardcore Corbynista lefty', so of course, the smears gained traction. There was the usual anti-semitic smear, various pastings in the tabloids, and calls not to politicise the situation. They also got him on the old 'labour activist' smear when he appeared on Panorama.
Anyway, turns out he was bang on.
It's an interesting rabbit hole to disappear down. Start with Question Time on March 12, then look at social media and news articles from after the show. This article from a month later gives a decent roundup of what happened, there's a clip from his appearance on QT, too.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/p ... ssion=true
Here are some tweets from the show on March 12. Have a look at some of the replies. It's 'the public have had enough of experts' in a nutshell. Also check out Fiona Bruce's face of disdain when he mentions care homes in the second tweet's video.
https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcquestiont ... 9689631745
https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcquestiont ... 8089369601 | |
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| Quote: King Street Cat "Anyone been looking back at the Prof. John Ashton timeline of events?
He basically said exactly what would happen on Question Time back in early March, and was of course ridiculed, especially when he was found to have Labour connections.
Many right wing social media accounts jumped straight on him. One described him as a 'loony hardcore Corbynista lefty', so of course, the smears gained traction. There was the usual anti-semitic smear, various pastings in the tabloids, and calls not to politicise the situation. They also got him on the old 'labour activist' smear when he appeared on Panorama.
Anyway, turns out he was bang on.
It's an interesting rabbit hole to disappear down. Start with Question Time on March 12, then look at social media and news articles from after the show. This article from a month later gives a decent roundup of what happened, there's a clip from his appearance on QT, too.
As requested. 
I remember his appearance and he was absolutely correct. But hindsight is a wonderful thing. I was well aware of the effect of CV19 around the world from the get-go as I was dealing with the effects of travel/border restrictions every day and watching as country by country the situation deepened.
It's worth recalling that even in early March, many eminent scientists still viewed this as another SARS/MERS - nasty but possible to contain and eliminate fairly successfully. We easily forget this is a new virus. Antigen and antibody tests barely existed, certainly not in large number, and those that did were often not accurate enough. The nature of the virus was largely unknown. We didn't know exactly what it did or exactly how infectious it was - something underestimated globally due to the fact people can be shedding whilst asymptomatic, unlike SARS/MERS. There's still a lot about it we don't know.
The West hadn't experienced SARS/MERS, unlike many countries in Asia, who therefore had responses and facilities in place for precisely such an event. Leaping into action wasn't as simple for us. That said, I've said before we were too late locking down and we could have done more.
I have no particular love for Fiona Bruce but you're seeing something that's not there. She simply looks at her notes and the audience and gives a little sigh. It's certainly not aimed at the mention of care homes.
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| Quote: Cronus "I have no particular love for Fiona Bruce but you're seeing something that's not there. She simply looks at her notes and the audience and gives a little sigh. It's certainly not aimed at the mention of care homes.'"
I don't think she's showing any targetted disdain towards care homes. Remember this is nearly 2 weeks before lockdown. She just looks like she's thinking, "here we go again! He's banging on about care homes now". I just find that particular clip very prescient now we know the extent to which it has ripped through care homes. | | |
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| Quote: Cronus "As requested. ![]()
You could always do a cummings and predict it coming, by doctoring your posts, when it was already upon us.
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