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Quote: sally cinnamon "This is true, and explains why it will be divisive. But it also contains the potential for continued Tory rule through re-invention, which has been one of the unique factors of this current administration

Something had to be done about Northern given its performance, its location and all the seats the Tories won in the North - it will not be in public ownership for long and I don't see a full scale re-nationalisation ala Corbyn - do you?

Minimum wage has been going up annually since the Tories came into power in 2010 so Boris is not doing anything that previous regimes haven't been doing - its a big hike this time 6.5%!!

The Tories inherited a mess from the last Labour government and something needed to be done - we all knew the mess was so bad it would take many years of belt-tightening to put it right. Nobody - other than Hammond - liked austerity so as soon as it could loosened it has been. The investment seems to be going into existing public services e.g. NHS, Education and Police - I don't see a call from the Tories to re-nationalise utilities, trains, post etc - I don't loosening of trade union legislation, I don't see free broadband, free home insulations, closing of public schools and I haven't see an increase in top earners tax rates etc.

Maybe I have missed something?

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You were doing fine up until that third paragraph and then out came the old nonsense about Labour.

I think you find that the problem in 2008 was called the global financial crisis not the Labour financial crisis. You'll also, with a bit research, find that Labours borrowing leading up to 2008 was not excessive and that the head of the Bank of England contirmed that Labour were not at fault.

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Quote: silver2 "You were doing fine up until that third paragraph and then out came the old nonsense about Labour.

I think you find that the problem in 2008 was called the global financial crisis not the Labour financial crisis. You'll also, with a bit research, find that Labours borrowing leading up to 2008 was not excessive and that the head of the Bank of England contirmed that Labour were not at fault.'"


I never said Labour caused the issues, what I said was the coalition inherited a mess?

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Quote: Sal Paradise "I never said Labour caused the issues, what I said was the coalition inherited a mess?'"


Fair enough.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "

Maybe I have missed something?'"


Don’t think so.

Here’s the key points from the manifesto.

https://vote.conservatives.com/our-plan

Get Brexit Done, obviously.

Increased spending on some public services, while controlling debt (‘controlling’ in this context may or may not be defined in the main document, I cba to check) and not raising income tax, VAT or National Insurance. No rain on bank holidays.

The point is, they haven’t said very much about how they want to go about ‘unleashing Britain’s potential’. Not only is there no real detail, there’s not even a broad vision that goes beyond ‘confidence’ and ‘rising to challenges’. Maybe we’ll identify synergies to achieve some efficiencies and create prosperity.

tbf, i’m fine with a degree of pragmatism and i’m not demanding a Johnsonian ideology. I’m just curious as to 1. What they’re going to do and how, and 2. Whether they know themselves yet.

What model do you think they should be looking at as the UK remodels itself?
Quote: Sal Paradise "

Maybe I have missed something?'"


Don’t think so.

Here’s the key points from the manifesto.

https://vote.conservatives.com/our-plan

Get Brexit Done, obviously.

Increased spending on some public services, while controlling debt (‘controlling’ in this context may or may not be defined in the main document, I cba to check) and not raising income tax, VAT or National Insurance. No rain on bank holidays.

The point is, they haven’t said very much about how they want to go about ‘unleashing Britain’s potential’. Not only is there no real detail, there’s not even a broad vision that goes beyond ‘confidence’ and ‘rising to challenges’. Maybe we’ll identify synergies to achieve some efficiencies and create prosperity.

tbf, i’m fine with a degree of pragmatism and i’m not demanding a Johnsonian ideology. I’m just curious as to 1. What they’re going to do and how, and 2. Whether they know themselves yet.

What model do you think they should be looking at as the UK remodels itself?


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