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Quote: Cronus "Not disputing that. But are you saying he wasn't communist and at times Leninist, Stalinist and a devotee of Marx? He was, as you should know.

I'm not sure why one conflates with the other, but ok.

The roots are a man with base communist ideals, even if he drifted from the Italian Communist Party. That much is reflected in much of the Ventotene Manifesto, clear for all to see. He was anti-fascist but also anti-pre-WW1 European aristocratic rule.

Besides, more relevant than bickering over the details of the roots of the EU, are where the EU and its member states will eventually end up. And that's what I disagree with.

Until the point you found yourself brainwashed by the 'progressive' EU agenda, probably yes.

Why would Wilzay know anything about me? He barely knows which end of his nose his face is at.'"


Your waffling again icon_biggrin.gif

Possibly you were waffling to Wilzay when you described your transition from small flat to two up two down in Leigh icon_biggrin.gif

Can’t be bothered digging your post out icon_biggrin.gif

So your not the wealthy Tory you big yourself up to be, just another little ten bob Tory wannabe , door to door salesperson type icon_biggrin.gif

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You were doing fine up until that third paragraph and then out came the old nonsense about Labour.

I think you find that the problem in 2008 was called the global financial crisis not the Labour financial crisis. You'll also, with a bit research, find that Labours borrowing leading up to 2008 was not excessive and that the head of the Bank of England contirmed that Labour were not at fault.

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Quote: silver2 "You were doing fine up until that third paragraph and then out came the old nonsense about Labour.

I think you find that the problem in 2008 was called the global financial crisis not the Labour financial crisis. You'll also, with a bit research, find that Labours borrowing leading up to 2008 was not excessive and that the head of the Bank of England contirmed that Labour were not at fault.'"


I never said Labour caused the issues, what I said was the coalition inherited a mess?

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Quote: Sal Paradise "I never said Labour caused the issues, what I said was the coalition inherited a mess?'"


Fair enough.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "

Maybe I have missed something?'"


Don’t think so.

Here’s the key points from the manifesto.

https://vote.conservatives.com/our-plan

Get Brexit Done, obviously.

Increased spending on some public services, while controlling debt (‘controlling’ in this context may or may not be defined in the main document, I cba to check) and not raising income tax, VAT or National Insurance. No rain on bank holidays.

The point is, they haven’t said very much about how they want to go about ‘unleashing Britain’s potential’. Not only is there no real detail, there’s not even a broad vision that goes beyond ‘confidence’ and ‘rising to challenges’. Maybe we’ll identify synergies to achieve some efficiencies and create prosperity.

tbf, i’m fine with a degree of pragmatism and i’m not demanding a Johnsonian ideology. I’m just curious as to 1. What they’re going to do and how, and 2. Whether they know themselves yet.

What model do you think they should be looking at as the UK remodels itself?
Quote: Sal Paradise "

Maybe I have missed something?'"


Don’t think so.

Here’s the key points from the manifesto.

https://vote.conservatives.com/our-plan

Get Brexit Done, obviously.

Increased spending on some public services, while controlling debt (‘controlling’ in this context may or may not be defined in the main document, I cba to check) and not raising income tax, VAT or National Insurance. No rain on bank holidays.

The point is, they haven’t said very much about how they want to go about ‘unleashing Britain’s potential’. Not only is there no real detail, there’s not even a broad vision that goes beyond ‘confidence’ and ‘rising to challenges’. Maybe we’ll identify synergies to achieve some efficiencies and create prosperity.

tbf, i’m fine with a degree of pragmatism and i’m not demanding a Johnsonian ideology. I’m just curious as to 1. What they’re going to do and how, and 2. Whether they know themselves yet.

What model do you think they should be looking at as the UK remodels itself?


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