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| Quote: Cronus "And you think immigration has been at acceptable, manageable levels for say, the last 20 years? You think the views of the normal person on the street all come from Nigel Farage?
You also think, I presume, that the average Brit should shut up and accept the pace and volume of change thrust upon them by 'progressives', who think they know best?
Are you like that smug piece of work Emily Thornberry, who views working class Britain as below her, and mocks it in her tweets?
You probably think that the suggestion of sensible, managed immigration is racist and xenophobic and nazist and fascist and probably satanic. To most people it's common sense.
You know as well as I do that, after 10 years of austerity and with local services creaking under the strain of 10 years of cut backs, immigrants became a very easy target and that this was used by Farage & Co to stoke a climate which made people want significant change.
We agree that there had to be a level of control and that the UK was "stiffed" by he EU when they asked for help.
However, where we are poles apart is in our prediction for the UK's future outside of such a huge trading bloc
What stinks the house out is that the Tories are now prepared, at least in word, to invest in all of those cities which they had butchered and had the same or any sensible investment been forthcoming, as opposed to the austerity cuts, there simply wouldn't have been the same outcry about immigration. Some would say that we have all been played and some wouldn't know, due to Brexit blindness.
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| You were doing fine up until that third paragraph and then out came the old nonsense about Labour.
I think you find that the problem in 2008 was called the global financial crisis not the Labour financial crisis. You'll also, with a bit research, find that Labours borrowing leading up to 2008 was not excessive and that the head of the Bank of England contirmed that Labour were not at fault.
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| Quote: silver2 "You were doing fine up until that third paragraph and then out came the old nonsense about Labour.
I think you find that the problem in 2008 was called the global financial crisis not the Labour financial crisis. You'll also, with a bit research, find that Labours borrowing leading up to 2008 was not excessive and that the head of the Bank of England contirmed that Labour were not at fault.'"
I never said Labour caused the issues, what I said was the coalition inherited a mess?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "I never said Labour caused the issues, what I said was the coalition inherited a mess?'"
Fair enough.
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Quote: Sal Paradise "
Maybe I have missed something?'"
Don’t think so.
Here’s the key points from the manifesto.
https://vote.conservatives.com/our-plan
Get Brexit Done, obviously.
Increased spending on some public services, while controlling debt (‘controlling’ in this context may or may not be defined in the main document, I cba to check) and not raising income tax, VAT or National Insurance. No rain on bank holidays.
The point is, they haven’t said very much about how they want to go about ‘unleashing Britain’s potential’. Not only is there no real detail, there’s not even a broad vision that goes beyond ‘confidence’ and ‘rising to challenges’. Maybe we’ll identify synergies to achieve some efficiencies and create prosperity.
tbf, i’m fine with a degree of pragmatism and i’m not demanding a Johnsonian ideology. I’m just curious as to 1. What they’re going to do and how, and 2. Whether they know themselves yet.
What model do you think they should be looking at as the UK remodels itself?
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Quote: Sal Paradise "
Maybe I have missed something?'"
Don’t think so.
Here’s the key points from the manifesto.
https://vote.conservatives.com/our-plan
Get Brexit Done, obviously.
Increased spending on some public services, while controlling debt (‘controlling’ in this context may or may not be defined in the main document, I cba to check) and not raising income tax, VAT or National Insurance. No rain on bank holidays.
The point is, they haven’t said very much about how they want to go about ‘unleashing Britain’s potential’. Not only is there no real detail, there’s not even a broad vision that goes beyond ‘confidence’ and ‘rising to challenges’. Maybe we’ll identify synergies to achieve some efficiencies and create prosperity.
tbf, i’m fine with a degree of pragmatism and i’m not demanding a Johnsonian ideology. I’m just curious as to 1. What they’re going to do and how, and 2. Whether they know themselves yet.
What model do you think they should be looking at as the UK remodels itself?
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Part 5 initiated.
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