Quote: bren2k "I think you're wrong about that - large sections of the big policy stuff were very popular with the public; including the nationalisation of utilities and such.
Where I think you are right, is that the Brexit policy killed us off - Corbyn was forced into a strange and untenable position by people like Keir Starmer, because they are ultra-remainers who insisted on the PV being included; so Corbyn tried to find a grown-up way to include that by saying he'd stay neutral and implement the result, but it was far to ambiguous and easy to attack. And of course this was a Brexit election.
There's also the fact that Corbyn has been the target of an unprecedented and vicious smear campaign, not just from the Tories, but from the RW media, the BBC and a large contingent of his own MP's - the Blairite rump - who hate the members, and yearn for a return to the halcyon days of New Labour, when they could pretend to be socialists and thereby maintain their place on the parliamentary gravy train, because they represented no threat to the established order in this country. It's not a coincidence that Blair is the only Labour leader that the Murdoch evil empire has ever endorsed.
The battleground in 5 years time will be interesting; Brexit will be a wholly Tory mess, and Johnson will have failed to deliver on his key and seemingly made up on the spot promises - and that's quite aside from any new scandal which could emerge at any moment, given the character of the man. He won't represent change, and his tousle-haired posh boy schtick will have worn decidedly thin.
With regards to the Labour leadership - I'd go for Angela Rayner; and I'll do everything I can to resist Keir Starmer or Jess Phillips, both of whom would be a disaster in my view.'"
Angela Rayner - are you serious? Labour can kiss goodbye to ever getting in power - Boris will eat her for breakfast. Next you will be saying Laura Pidcock as deputy.
Labour lost because of Corbyn and a huge credibility issue - the idea that all their give aways' could be funded by a few rich people wasn't credible and could not have been delivered - everyone would have been poorer. The media bias was a complete deflection from the fact that a hard left Labour wasn't attractive and if you look at the arrogance of these people like Corbyn, like McDonald and the anger they showed when questioned it shone through big style. Labour on the left is a party to bring the people together it was quite the opposite policies for a few to hurt the mass. C4 fought tirelessly for Labour - Sky gave them a huge platform as did Marr.