There is no socialist theory that suggests that everyone is equal; or that life is, or should be, 'fair.' You're just talking nonsense.

The mantra is "From each according to his ability, to each according to his contribution," which is actually the opposite of what you're suggesting.

Depends on your interpretation of Socialism.

Socialist mantra is about we all share in the wealth created. Sadly that doesn't work because those that generate the wealth struggle to see why they should be equally rewarded as those that contribute less. Simple theory against reality and as soon as you add the human it doesn't work and their is no example of an out and out Socialist state that has seen its country prosper.

You've literally ignored what I provided - and doubled down with a liberal sprinkling of ill-informed nonsense, that has no basis in the democratic socialist model that is being proposed by the Labour party.

For the final time - whatever you think an 'out and out Socialist state' actually is - that isn't what's being talked about.

You seem to have loads of free time to post on here, I assume in comfort breaks between running your massive business empire? Maybe use some of it to read something about at least some of the things you spend time talking about?

More likely to be in his mums spare bedroom with a crusty sock staring at posters of his heroic captains of industry, Branson, Dyson and Simon Cowell.

What is being talked about here - perhaps listen to McDonald's interview with Dale - by his own admission he wants to bring as much as possible into public ownership. On the NHS - we are going to manufacture our own drugs and not buy them from anyone - so how are we going to develop new drugs? Where are we going to buy clinical equipment - according to McDonald everything relating to the NHS will be sourced from public companies. The private element of the NHS is 7% its was 6% under the last Labour government he say it will all go even if it cost more to source from all this public companies - its bonkers!!


The NHS is a huge opportunity for the Tories to dismantle the Labour policy - Ashworth is one of the weakest MPs out there.

"We have already shown that the workers, although they produce all the wealth of society, have no control over its production or distribution: the people, who are the only really organic part of society, are treated as a mere appendage to capital - as a part of its machinery. This must be altered from the foundation: the land, the capital, the machinery, factories, workshops, stores, means of transit, mines, banking, all means of production and distribution of wealth, must be declared and treated as the common property of all." William Morris

Morris is one of McDonald's regularly quotes influences