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| PR often leads to coalition government so smaller parties can have more of an influence, for good or bad, It also means governments can fall pretty quickly too when someone pulls out. Can’t see much of a majority for a no deal Brexit in the current parliament or any future one under PR. It’s just too divisive an issue, especially for the Conservatives who’ve struggled with Europe for nearly 50 years. PR if anything leads to policies being watered down in order to seek a compromise that will form a government.
Have any Labour MPs (apart from Hoey) said they’d support the Government in the event that there was a vote of no confidence triggered after a desire to go for no deal? I think the best the Government could hope for would be an abstention or two, and even then it’s a brave Labour MP that abstains on a vote of no confidence.
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| You were doing fine up until that third paragraph and then out came the old nonsense about Labour.
I think you find that the problem in 2008 was called the global financial crisis not the Labour financial crisis. You'll also, with a bit research, find that Labours borrowing leading up to 2008 was not excessive and that the head of the Bank of England contirmed that Labour were not at fault.
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| Quote: silver2 "You were doing fine up until that third paragraph and then out came the old nonsense about Labour.
I think you find that the problem in 2008 was called the global financial crisis not the Labour financial crisis. You'll also, with a bit research, find that Labours borrowing leading up to 2008 was not excessive and that the head of the Bank of England contirmed that Labour were not at fault.'"
I never said Labour caused the issues, what I said was the coalition inherited a mess?
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "I never said Labour caused the issues, what I said was the coalition inherited a mess?'"
Fair enough.
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Quote: Sal Paradise "
Maybe I have missed something?'"
Don’t think so.
Here’s the key points from the manifesto.
https://vote.conservatives.com/our-plan
Get Brexit Done, obviously.
Increased spending on some public services, while controlling debt (‘controlling’ in this context may or may not be defined in the main document, I cba to check) and not raising income tax, VAT or National Insurance. No rain on bank holidays.
The point is, they haven’t said very much about how they want to go about ‘unleashing Britain’s potential’. Not only is there no real detail, there’s not even a broad vision that goes beyond ‘confidence’ and ‘rising to challenges’. Maybe we’ll identify synergies to achieve some efficiencies and create prosperity.
tbf, i’m fine with a degree of pragmatism and i’m not demanding a Johnsonian ideology. I’m just curious as to 1. What they’re going to do and how, and 2. Whether they know themselves yet.
What model do you think they should be looking at as the UK remodels itself?
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Quote: Sal Paradise "
Maybe I have missed something?'"
Don’t think so.
Here’s the key points from the manifesto.
https://vote.conservatives.com/our-plan
Get Brexit Done, obviously.
Increased spending on some public services, while controlling debt (‘controlling’ in this context may or may not be defined in the main document, I cba to check) and not raising income tax, VAT or National Insurance. No rain on bank holidays.
The point is, they haven’t said very much about how they want to go about ‘unleashing Britain’s potential’. Not only is there no real detail, there’s not even a broad vision that goes beyond ‘confidence’ and ‘rising to challenges’. Maybe we’ll identify synergies to achieve some efficiencies and create prosperity.
tbf, i’m fine with a degree of pragmatism and i’m not demanding a Johnsonian ideology. I’m just curious as to 1. What they’re going to do and how, and 2. Whether they know themselves yet.
What model do you think they should be looking at as the UK remodels itself?
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| This has run past the 1000-post limit.
Part 5 initiated.
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