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Quote: POSTL "Yes they currently are a one issue party and lets be fair at the moment its to shake up the two main parties who are not delivering and nothing more. If they want to be taken seriously as anything else eg to vote for in a general election then they now need to start looking a whole range of policies which will include a whole range of issues on leaving the EU if we have not already done so.
With regards to being unfair to Farage, I do agree he is a career politician but with the best will in the world you cannot put a new party together in as short a time as this and have everything boxed off. Look at Change UK all seasoned politicians even current PMs yet they couldn't even get there logo sorted and put someone up for election in these election that didn't want to.
The trouble with these new parties is they generally shoot themselves in the foot as UKIP has done, The Brexit Party for me has already done it by putting forward an alleged IRA sympathiser in the Northwest.'"


Although you are right to say that they are a new party, Farage and his buddies have learned from and copied the UKIP version that he began and was successful with a few years ago.
I dont think that Farage has too much interest in leading the party beyond getting Brexit out of the way, which for him, would be job done and equally, he has little interest in any fall out following Brexit and just like Cameron, albeit for different reasons, he will be long gone but, chipping in form the sidelines if/when things start to look grim.

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You were doing fine up until that third paragraph and then out came the old nonsense about Labour.

I think you find that the problem in 2008 was called the global financial crisis not the Labour financial crisis. You'll also, with a bit research, find that Labours borrowing leading up to 2008 was not excessive and that the head of the Bank of England contirmed that Labour were not at fault.

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Quote: silver2 "You were doing fine up until that third paragraph and then out came the old nonsense about Labour.

I think you find that the problem in 2008 was called the global financial crisis not the Labour financial crisis. You'll also, with a bit research, find that Labours borrowing leading up to 2008 was not excessive and that the head of the Bank of England contirmed that Labour were not at fault.'"


I never said Labour caused the issues, what I said was the coalition inherited a mess?

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Quote: Sal Paradise "I never said Labour caused the issues, what I said was the coalition inherited a mess?'"


Fair enough.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "

Maybe I have missed something?'"


Don’t think so.

Here’s the key points from the manifesto.

https://vote.conservatives.com/our-plan

Get Brexit Done, obviously.

Increased spending on some public services, while controlling debt (‘controlling’ in this context may or may not be defined in the main document, I cba to check) and not raising income tax, VAT or National Insurance. No rain on bank holidays.

The point is, they haven’t said very much about how they want to go about ‘unleashing Britain’s potential’. Not only is there no real detail, there’s not even a broad vision that goes beyond ‘confidence’ and ‘rising to challenges’. Maybe we’ll identify synergies to achieve some efficiencies and create prosperity.

tbf, i’m fine with a degree of pragmatism and i’m not demanding a Johnsonian ideology. I’m just curious as to 1. What they’re going to do and how, and 2. Whether they know themselves yet.

What model do you think they should be looking at as the UK remodels itself?
Quote: Sal Paradise "

Maybe I have missed something?'"


Don’t think so.

Here’s the key points from the manifesto.

https://vote.conservatives.com/our-plan

Get Brexit Done, obviously.

Increased spending on some public services, while controlling debt (‘controlling’ in this context may or may not be defined in the main document, I cba to check) and not raising income tax, VAT or National Insurance. No rain on bank holidays.

The point is, they haven’t said very much about how they want to go about ‘unleashing Britain’s potential’. Not only is there no real detail, there’s not even a broad vision that goes beyond ‘confidence’ and ‘rising to challenges’. Maybe we’ll identify synergies to achieve some efficiencies and create prosperity.

tbf, i’m fine with a degree of pragmatism and i’m not demanding a Johnsonian ideology. I’m just curious as to 1. What they’re going to do and how, and 2. Whether they know themselves yet.

What model do you think they should be looking at as the UK remodels itself?


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