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AND we still have the very large elephant in the room which is N.Ireland, a situation which appears to have reached an impasse.'"


Someone who used to help conduct checks on Irish border crossings in his youth told me this.

Firstly you need (at a minimum) 2 serving members of the police, then you need a 4 man 'brick' of soldiers (at a minimum) to protect these police. Times that by two because if you have police and army personnel from one country on one side of the border, they'll more than likely be replicated by Garda and Irish Army on the other.

It takes between 10 and 20 minutes to check a vehicle for contraband and sort out customs and excise, check the identity (of everyone) in the vehicle... and these people will not be best pleased. Check for illegal immigrants. Check documentation regarding goods. Check for hidden compartments containing contraband/people... queues form, big queues and there are over 200 public roads and a heck of a lot more 'hidden' tracks the provos and INLA used for smuggling... mainly diesel.

Why do you need armed men at all?, I hear you asking. Well these border checkpoints/customs points will be deeply unpopular and a spark to tinder to dissident republicans who have been itching for an excuse to dig up the Armalites and Semtex. Border checks imposed by a power they don't recognise at a border they don't recognise will provide it. Boris' numberplate recognition devices will last about 10 minutes.

Then, after half a dozen border police have been shot and a few posts and or personnel have been blown to smithereens, politicians will poke holes in the air and the PBI (Poor Bloody Infantry) will be sent in to provide a deterrent to naughtiness - or 'a target rich environment' for the gunmen.

The locals, who have been moving back and forth freely since the GFA won’t really appreciate you stopping them travelling through a border that a substantial amount don't recognise it and you're going to have your work cut out getting these people onside.

There is bound to be some form of 'atrocity/accident' as a nervous 18 year old 'Tom' blows away a family as perhaps a women late for a doctor's appointment drives through a checkpoint... and Belfast and Derry go up in flames again, more troops are sent in... a few weeks later a bomb goes off in Manchester/London... Birmingham

And the ing madness starts off all over again... just because some extreme Thatcherite Tories want a 'Singapore of the North'.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Cronus "Cry me a river. No it's not.'"

The term "Paddy" is an ethnic slur, or a ethnophaulism if you like....but either way, it shows that you are a narrow minded bigot stuck in the 1970's when racism was considered OK......calling me a Paddy is as racist as using the N word......but because I'm white, you do't get it......

As for the canon fodder remark........Britain used to control Ireland, we took up arms, Britain no longer controls Ireland.......paint it as white as you want you racist bigot, you lost and you'll lose again. Your response to a handful of misled Muslim idiots blowing themselves up was Brexit.......you've really lost the plot and now you're scrambling for a semblance of relevancy in a world that no longer considers Britain the of anything other than farcical politics and whining like little girls....you were led up the garden path and you and your ilk, racist northerners blaming Muslims on TV, white Van man bitching about immigrants, Cab drivers moaning about UBER, Rupert Murdoch disciple, UKIP knucklehead....you've all buggered the generations to come with your narrow minded racist mantra.....and the people really responsible will continue to sell arms to Arabs whilst blaming Arabs and you'll cheer-lead them, because you're too stupid to have your own opinion...because you're a racist, painted into a corner and unable to do anything other than close your eyes and call me Paddy.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Cronus "I won't even go into why the Republicans surrendered with a pathetic whimper and chose the diplomatic path '"

So, British Troops are off the streets, you released IRA killers and you still don't have a clue where the semtex and Guns are? Yeah...some surrender
That's what Cromwell thought......and Churchill and a host of other political heavyweights......Thatcher pooped her pants after Brighton and it was all downhill and knuckledragger tactics thereafter.....sledgehammer to crack the nut but you lot kept missing the nut until the Americans stepped in and saved you from yourselves.

British Army collusion with the UDA/UVF is now a fact of record BTW.......so if there is a next time, expect Blue Helmets on the ground......because British government attempts at genocide in Ireland are now well documented....and the EU will have the UN in like flynn.

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Quote: Call Me God "So, British Troops are off the streets, you released IRA killers and you still don't have a clue where the semtex and Guns are? Yeah...some surrender u ok hun? icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Call Me God "The term "Paddy" is an ethnic slur, or a ethnophaulism if you like....but either way, it shows that you are a narrow minded bigot stuck in the 1970's when racism was considered OK......calling me a Paddy is as racist as using the N word......but because I'm white, you do't get it......'"

It's racist if you're a snowflake DESPERATE to claim outrage. <jazz hands>

Quote: Call Me God "As for the canon fodder remark........Britain used to control Ireland, we took up arms, Britain no longer controls Ireland.......paint it as white as you want you racist bigot, you lost and you'll lose again. Your response to a handful of misled Muslim idiots blowing themselves up was Brexit.......you've really lost the plot and now you're scrambling for a semblance of relevancy in a world that no longer considers Britain the Centre of anything other than farcical politics and whining like little girls....you were led up the garden path and you and your ilk, racist northerners blaming Muslims on TV, white Van man bitching about immigrants, Cab drivers moaning about UBER, Rupert Murdoch disciple, UKIP knucklehead....you've all buggered the generations to come with your narrow minded racist mantra.....and the people really responsible will continue to sell arms to Arabs whilst blaming Arabs and you'll cheer-lead them, because you're too stupid to have your own opinion...because you're a racist, painted into a corner and unable to do anything other than close your eyes and call me Paddy.'"

icon_lol.gif I'VE lost the plot?

I've explained my reasons for voting leave more times than I care to recall. An angry snowflake Paddy living on the other side of the world clearly can't understand, or prefers to ignore the reality of life in the UK in favour of rants.

BTW, seeing as for some bizarre reason you've dragged Muslims into a Brexit thread, I should probably mansplain something to you: most Muslim immigrants don't hail from the EU, unless of course they've crossed into the EU and made their way to the UK, often illegally. You're welcome. icon_thumb.gif

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That's enough!

Start another thread if you wish but if it descends into more of the same insults, name calling and condescending stuff, that will get locked too.


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