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| Let’s say from the two evils French chose Macron, but still looks like they are not very happy.
These days I often meet French people, very few want to live in France, most of young people move to French speaking Belgium and Switzerland, sometimes to Germany, Netherlands or States.
I have spoken with a 29 year old French living in Germany, and he claims that for him it is impossible to live in Paris and have the same quality of life like he has in Germany. He’s got a good job in logistics and earns nearly twice more than in France, he can afford to buy apartment in Berlin [urlhttps://tranio.com/germany/berlin/apartments/[/url while in Paris he says no one of his age can, he feels more secure abroad, speaking no German and being a foreigner.
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| Quote Ernest Modest="Ernest Modest"Let’s say from the two evils French chose Macron, but still looks like they are not very happy.
These days I often meet French people, very few want to live in France, most of young people move to French speaking Belgium and Switzerland, sometimes to Germany, Netherlands or States.
I have spoken with a 29 year old French living in Germany, and he claims that for him it is impossible to live in Paris and have the same quality of life like he has in Germany. He’s got a good job in logistics and earns nearly twice more than in France, he can afford to buy apartment in Berlin [urlhttps://tranio.com/germany/berlin/apartments/[/url while in Paris he says no one of his age can, he feels more secure abroad, speaking no German and being a foreigner.'"
What point are you trying to make ?
I had some visitors from France a couple of months ago and they were explaining how the electoral system worked over there and they called the result exactly how it ended, with Le Penn getting 35% but remaining at 35% in the second round and that the remaining voters would line up against Le Penn in the second round.
At least they turned their backs on the hard line right wing.
Germany has taken huge numbers of immigrants and been the most "welcoming" nation, numbers that massively dwarf those coming into the UK.
The housing issue is a problem in all capital cities and perhaps more and more will follow the New York model, where everyone lives in the suburbs and commutes into the city to work.
We have just the same problem in London and it's just as bad in Dublin.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"What point are you trying to make ?
I had some visitors from France a couple of months ago and they were explaining how the electoral system worked over there and they called the result exactly how it ended, with Le Penn getting 35% but remaining at 35% in the second round and that the remaining voters would line up against Le Penn in the second round.
At least they turned their backs on the hard line right wing.
Germany has taken huge numbers of immigrants and been the most "welcoming" nation, numbers that massively dwarf those coming into the UK.
The housing issue is a problem in all capital cities and perhaps more and more will follow the New York model, where everyone lives in the suburbs and commutes into the city to work.
We have just the same problem in London and it's just as bad in Dublin.'"
A bit off topic, but, you don't appear to know much about New York or London
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| Quote Uncle Rico="Uncle Rico"A bit off topic, but, you don't appear to know much about New York or London'"
What, ordinary people priced out of living in the capital cities ?
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| Quote Ernest Modest="Ernest Modest"Let’s say from the two evils French chose Macron, but still looks like they are not very happy.
These days I often meet French people, very few want to live in France, most of young people move to French speaking Belgium and Switzerland, sometimes to Germany, Netherlands or States.
I have spoken with a 29 year old French living in Germany, and he claims that for him it is impossible to live in Paris and have the same quality of life like he has in Germany. He’s got a good job in logistics and earns nearly twice more than in France, he can afford to buy apartment in Berlin [urlhttps://tranio.com/germany/berlin/apartments/[/url while in Paris he says no one of his age can, he feels more secure abroad, speaking no German and being a foreigner.'"
So MOST young French people go to live abroad do they? Interesting 'fact' that.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"What, ordinary people priced out of living in the capital cities ?'"
Quantify 'ordinary'. 
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"What, ordinary people priced out of living in the capital cities ?'"
Firstly, that's not what you said, you said "everyone" and secondly, as far as New York is concerned I presume that you were basing your misguided opinion on Manhattan, rather than the five boroughs that make up New York City? Quite a lot of people live in Manhattan anyway admittedly in expensive real estate, but, in the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island there are plenty of neighbourhoods where "ordinary" people live.
The City of London is a different animal altogether, but, then I do wonder what you think qualifies as London in your model?
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"Quantify 'ordinary'.
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Let's go for, anyone on "average" wages, wanting to live within 15/20 mins of "The City", especially if they want to buy a property.
Places that would cost £200,000 in the north of England, comfortably selling at over £1,000,000.
Of course, people who have lived down there and not "cashed in" their property can afford to live in "Central London" but, unless you are on mega bucks, you aren't going to be able to buy there.
Of course, there are some exceptions.
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| Quote Uncle Rico="Uncle Rico"Firstly, that's not what you said, you said "everyone" and secondly, as far as New York is concerned I presume that you were basing your misguided opinion on Manhattan, rather than the five boroughs that make up New York City? Quite a lot of people live in Manhattan anyway admittedly in expensive real estate, but, in the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island there are plenty of neighbourhoods where "ordinary" people live.
The City of London is a different animal altogether, but, then I do wonder what you think qualifies as London in your model?'"
A substantial amount of people from Hoboken and jersey city commute the short distance across the Hudson to manhattan . Unfortunately some of the working class areas in these communities have been gentrified . Property prices have shot up, pricing the average wage earners out of the market. As in London if you bought years ago you are quids in or should I say dollars in.
As in London some of the journey times people undertake to commute to New York from outlying areas are staggering.
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| So, the first murmurings today of the EU wanting to regulate clearing of their own transactions, 70% of which take place in the City and which generate huge revenue for our financial sector.
Also, listening to the Conservative MP, Bill Cash, on 5 live today, it seems like much of the groundwork for the Brexit negotiations is already laid out and remaining in the single market or access to it are not going to be possible, regardless of the make up of the new coalition government.
Where are all the Brexitiers who said that there would be no problem getting a free trade deal.
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"So, the first murmurings today of the EU wanting to regulate clearing of their own transactions, 70% of which take place in the City and which generate huge revenue for our financial sector.
Also, listening to the Conservative MP, Bill Cash, on 5 live today, it seems like much of the groundwork for the Brexit negotiations is already laid out and remaining in the single market or access to it are not going to be possible, regardless of the make up of the new coalition government.
Where are all the Brexitiers who said that there would be no problem getting a free trade deal.'"
No worries. Putin is now looking after the USA and UK.
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