FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > The Sin Bin > Wage limit
38 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach7343
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024May 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
10025.jpg
For contributions, remittances, payments, and all other matters of any responsibility, please refer to someone else. “The British people love a good hero and a good hate” Lord Northcliffe:10025.jpg



Quote: bren2k "

That however is nonsense; unless your only measure of 'hard work' is sweat and graft, which is clearly not the case. The harsh reality is that not many people have the skills, qualities and mindset to be a CEO - whereas many many more people are able to do the £7 an hour kind of job you're referring to - so the market values those rarer qualities accordingly. I'm uncomfortable about interfering with that.'"


Except there isn't a free or open market in the selection and remuneration of CEOs and other business executives. Executive selection and remuneration is decided by a small subset of stakeholders with specific interests in mind (I deliberately don't use the term shareholders as most shares in large UK corporations are not held by individual investors but by other corporate entities managing other people's capital). This is why CEOs and other execs tend to come from a small in-group of people and the skills and experience required is less tangible than certain other well paid, highly skilled roles i.e. you would expect a Consultant Surgeon to be a qualified doctor, with many years of certified training and experience in their specialist field, whereas CEOs and executives may not actually have any specialist skills and experience in their industry and instead have more opaque credentials where their exact contribution is harder to quantify.

RankPostsTeam
International Star17952
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
simpsons/simp006.gif
:simpsons/simp006.gif



Quote: King Street Cat "www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/worlds-richest-1-per-cent-richer-wealth-poor-three-charts-graphics-oxfam-a7529396.html

At this rate there'll be one person standing at the end with all the money and the rest will be dead.'"


Very few wealthy people have a social conscience with most only being driven by the desire to be wealthier than their peers.

Although Corbyn's idea of an upper wage limit may, in some ways, sound sensible, it will never happen and sadly, people end up like commodities and if a few end up "worn out", they are easily replaced.

Nobody would mind if someone worked twice as hard as the next man and was paid twice as much. However, wealth is often gained by exploiting others and yet we are encouraged to look up to these people and admire their status. d040.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4647
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
50733_1530270912.jpg
[color=#000000:ogl9gbum]"Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him."[/color:ogl9gbum]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50733.jpg



Quote: wrencat1873 "However, wealth is often gained by exploiting others and yet we are encouraged to look up to these people and admire their status.
I think people are starting to wise up to the 'wealth creators' lie they've been fed for so long, especially now they realise they're not benefitting from the wealth created and are merely scrabbling around for scraps.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman14845No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2021Jul 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
143_1357419061.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_143.jpg



Quote: wrencat1873 "Very few wealthy people have a social conscience with most only being driven by the desire to be wealthier than their peers.

Although Corbyn's idea of an upper wage limit may, in some ways, sound sensible, it will never happen and sadly, people end up like commodities and if a few end up "worn out", they are easily replaced.

Nobody would mind if someone worked twice as hard as the next man and was paid twice as much. However, wealth is often gained by exploiting others and yet we are encouraged to look up to these people and admire their status. I think we will see a return to progressive tax rates in future. Service sector jobs are starting to see the job losses due to innovation that the manufac

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman14845No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2021Jul 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
143_1357419061.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_143.jpg



Quote: wrencat1873 "Very few wealthy people have a social conscience with most only being driven by the desire to be wealthier than their peers.

Although Corbyn's idea of an upper wage limit may, in some ways, sound sensible, it will never happen and sadly, people end up like commodities and if a few end up "worn out", they are easily replaced.

Nobody would mind if someone worked twice as hard as the next man and was paid twice as much. However, wealth is often gained by exploiting others and yet we are encouraged to look up to these people and admire their status. I think we will see a return to progressive tax rates in future. Service sector jobs are starting to see the job losses due to innovation that the manufacturing sectors and agricultural sectors saw in times of old. Those job losses will be on a large scale in the next few years. As a result governments will need to raise taxes to fund education / training to make people fit for those jobs that are available in the economy and also to stave off civil
unrest. Governments cannot raise money by borrowing indefinitely and soon they will need to raise via taxing multinational companies and those individuals with good incomes.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach485No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2018Apr 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41988.jpg
:41988.jpg



https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... says-study This is an interesting read on this topic. Share price, while not a perfect reflection of company performance, is the best approximation we have. The average pay package of a FTSE 350 CEO increased 82% from 2001 to 2014. The return on invested capital? Less than 1%.

I disagree with the idea of a maximum wage. The reason for a minimum wage is so that people can survive (in theory) off what they earn. There's no such justification applicable to a maximum wage.

However, this isn't to say that inequality isn't an issue, particularly when regressive taxes like VAT have been increased since the Conservatives came to power. We need to do more in terms of progressive taxation as inequality has high negative external costs, for example the implications for mental and physical health. Poorer people also have a higher propensity to consume and also a lower propensity to import, both of which are good things for the economy.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... says-study This is an interesting read on this topic. Share price, while not a perfect reflection of company performance, is the best approximation we have. The average pay package of a FTSE 350 CEO increased 82% from 2001 to 2014. The return on invested capital? Less than 1%.

I disagree with the idea of a maximum wage. The reason for a minimum wage is so that people can survive (in theory) off what they earn. There's no such justification applicable to a maximum wage.

However, this isn't to say that inequality isn't an issue, particularly when regressive taxes like VAT have been increased since the Conservatives came to power. We need to do more in terms of progressive taxation as inequality has high negative external costs, for example the implications for mental and physical health. Poorer people also have a higher propensity to consume and also a lower propensity to import, both of which are good things for the economy.


38 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
38 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


13.72119140625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Tonights match v HKR
just_browny
85
5m
Rumours thread
Prince Buste
2448
6m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Emagdnim13
10095
7m
Championship Awards
Trojan Horse
9
8m
Leigh it is
BoredWiganer
78
15m
Decision on the field
hatty
12
18m
Questions for Ste Mills
JamieRobinso
1
27m
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
Douglas Blac
16
39m
Isa 1 year extension
Phuzzy
10
45m
TV Games - Not Hull
Chris71
2906
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62588
1m
Worst semi
Barstool Pre
5
1m
Squad 2025
Nat (Rugby_A
1
1m
Leigh it is
BoredWiganer
78
2m
Film game
Boss Hog
4064
2m
Isa 1 year extension
Phuzzy
10
2m
Fev H Play Off
Bully_Boxer
21
3m
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
Douglas Blac
16
3m
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
Mild Rover
2
4m
Sam Burgess
Boss Hog
7
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Questions for Ste Mills
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
Decision on the field
hatty
12
TODAY
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
Douglas Blac
16
TODAY
Worst semi
Barstool Pre
5
TODAY
2025 TRANSFER AND RETENTION RUMOURS
Listenup94
1
TODAY
Sam Burgess
Boss Hog
7
TODAY
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squad 2025
Nat (Rugby_A
1
TODAY
Tonights match v HKR
just_browny
85
TODAY
Isa 1 year extension
Phuzzy
10
TODAY
2024 IMG gradings
northernblok
2
TODAY
Championship Awards
Trojan Horse
9
TODAY
Season tickets
Hudd-Shay
8
TODAY
Best Semi
sir adrian m
13
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Vancouver Le
8
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
matt_wire
8
TODAY
Guest appearance
AgbriggAmble
2
TODAY
Squad for HKR
MorePlaymake
28
TODAY
Proposed rule changes 2025
MjM
14
TODAY
Fev H Play Off
Bully_Boxer
21
TODAY
Whose going for a beer in Wigan Saturday
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Play-off semi-final
BarnsleyGull
19
TODAY
Coach of the Year
Howfenwire
11
TODAY
Greatest game ever at HJ
Fantastic Mr
10
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
209
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
787
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
818
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1227
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1448
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1197
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1607
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1308
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1536
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1711
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2057
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1663
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1701
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
2028
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1724