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| Corbyn's politics are a sort of student union' left-wing populism, it's based on a sort of "the enemy of my enemy" schtick, so for example he can get over people actually being murderous terrorists or anti-semites or any number of harmful things as long as they self-identify as opposing ideological concept he also opposes e.g. "American imperialism" or "Neoliberalism". It is in many ways the opposite of "small c" conservative pragmatism, because the actual harm done by these "friends" is considered less than the conceptual harm that can be attributed to the "enemy ideologies". The purity of the ideology is more important than the physical manifestation, so fare example stuff should be nationalised on principle even if the actual result would be no better or possibly even worse. This plays well with a substantial minority, but the majority, including the realist "left" which most of the Parliamentary Labour Party belong to, know its juvenile rubbish and the "real world" is more complex.
Corbyn won't be the end of the Labour Party, he's got to be given a chance to fail and hope that a new (pre-Iraq War) Blair figure can be found, who can put forward a sensible platform to rebuild on. It must be remembered that hard Left "Corbynistas" need the Labour brand, there are any number of socialist factions who've going nowhere slowly for a long time with the same schtick.
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| Whether you agree with Trident or not to have unilateral nuclear disarmament as part of your manifesto is political suicide.
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| Quote: Bullseye "Whether you agree with Trident or not to have unilateral nuclear disarmament as part of your manifesto is political suicide.[/www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/598422/china-war-warning-us-army-bases-missiles-taiwan
Trident is needed
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| Daily Star. Hahahahaha!
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| Having a nuclear DETERENT didn't deter Argentina, and they aint got nukes!!!!
Catching water in a colander is the usual spiel, plus does anyone actually know if these things work?
I thought there was a test ban treaty.
Is daddy warbucks short of a bob or two?
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| Proponents of nuclear weapons would say they deter a nuclear attack. There may be something in that.
I don’t think anyone’s ever said they deter all wars.
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