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| To all those sore losers among the younger generations, I say this: we were taken into what is the EU by the Tory party on a campaign of lies, we were given a referendum in 1975 (under Labour) and that campaign was based on a project fear almost identical this times'. Politicians, especially the Tory party, then spent the next 40 years blaming all their incompetence on 'Europe' whilst still signing us up to Maastrict, etc. Is it any wonder that people you have seen and heard all this wanted out?
Also, it is clear that a lot of younger working class people voted out.
But if you want to blame somebody or something, blame a Tory party lead by two inexperienced, arrogant, overgrown school boys. Blame the most incompetent PM in post- war British history. He did not learn his lesson from the Scottish referendum. He offered a referendum on the EU in the Election manifesto to appease part of his party and see off UKIP voters in the expectation of losing that election. When he got a surprise win, did he not think it may have been in large part due to the referendum pledge? Clearly not, as he thought it would be a walk over and that with the Tory parry's usual divisive, divide and rule policies, the creation of a feeling of general insecurity among the population and a project fear it would be a walk over. But an out of touch PM misjudged things big time.
So if you are cut up about this and young, make yourself a solemn promise -NEVER vote Tory in the rest of your life. If you do, you will see economic incompetence, increased public borrowings and decreased public services, sleaze, arrogance and embarrassment. That has been the pattern during my life to date and I do not expect it to change anytime soon.
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Jones is either clairvoyant or a very clever political analyst. It is all so frighteningly contrived. We, the public, are pawns played like the proverbial fiddle. Scary stuff.
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| By "refreshing" I assume you mean putting across views that chime with your own? They are both utter tripe as far as I can tell. The establishment might well fear a move towards socialism, but that has not and will not ever happen under Corbyn.
Perhaps the oddest thing for me with respect to so much of the commentary in favour of Corbyn is the sheer hypocrisy of it.
Firstly Corbynistas (I feel able to use that ridiculous term because Corbyn acolytes love to do the same) constantly bemoan him being demonised by the press whilst happily demonising Labour MPs who don't rate him (Blairites, Bliarites, Tory Lites, Neo-Libs, Red Tories etc etc).
The second issue is the irony of ignoring Corbyn's history of defying the party whip yet complaining about disloyalty of others. Somehow when Jeremy defied the party it was a moral stance, and yet when MPs defy him its disloyal? Just staggering hypocrisy.
The worst thing is that when some Labour MPs have reported threats from supposed Labour supporters for their lack of loyalty to the great man (who unlike Corbyn's fans actually have to work with him), its downplayed as just part of the hurly burly of politics, aided by Corbyn's pathetically lukewarm response. Corbyn himself has made (very thinly) veiled threats about deselection for MPs who who show disloyalty to him.
If it wasn't a major threat to democracy this whole thing would be laughable. Sadly the Judean People's Front vs People's Front of Judea is being played out real time by the supposed opposition.
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| Quote: vbfg "I'm not going to help fund its slow death and accelerating irrelevance either.'"
I'm not even kicking around for the vote.
Not my party any more. I quit on Saturday.
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| For the record, I would have abandoned all principles to support the candidate who, when sending canvassing emails and texts, used the preferred name I supplied instead of my full first and middle names in all caps. It's an experience not unlike being shouted at by my mother.
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