Quote: Roy Haggerty "I know that Leave voters are prone to mad statements, conspiracy theories, and demonstrable nonsense, but let's just clear one thing up: the majority of people in jobs voted Remain - by quite a margin. That's both fulltime and part-time jobs. See attached poll: Perhaps I should have said the "average LOW PAID worker" voted leave. Study's have shown that the lower paid lose out under free movement of Labour - "UK studies find that immigration has small impact on average wages but more significant impacts along the wage distribution: low-waged workers lose while medium and high-paid workers gain" www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.u ... mmigration So if the majority of workers voted to stay as you claim we can assume it was the medium/high paid workers who selfishly wanted to maintain the status quo, whilst the majority of low paid workers who's wages are adversely affected by the free movement of Labour wanted out. Just looking at the map of the U.K clearly shows all Labour's traditional heartlands, bar inner London and Scotland (who appear to have defected en masse to the SNP), wanted to leave. As for the young being all for the E.U, l'm pretty sure their sentiment would change if they lived in Greece and saw first hand how the young are being royally screwed over by the E.U and their bankster allies. 50% youth unemployment and being asset stripped while the E.U refuses to let them declare bankruptcy. The E.U is a neo-liberal super state that uses free movement of labour to drive down wages. Labour will never be relevant again until they acknowledge this fact.

Quote: Roy Haggerty "I know that Leave voters are prone to mad statements, conspiracy theories, and demonstrable nonsense, but let's just clear one thing up: the majority of people in jobs voted Remain - by quite a margin. That's both fulltime and part-time jobs. See attached poll: Perhaps I should have said the "average LOW PAID worker" voted leave. Study's have shown that the lower paid lose out under free movement of Labour - "UK studies find that immigration has small impact on average wages but more significant impacts along the wage distribution: low-waged workers lose while medium and high-paid workers gain" www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.u ... mmigration So if the majority of workers voted to stay as you claim we can assume it was the medium/high paid workers who selfishly wanted to maintain the status quo, whilst the majority of low paid workers who's wages are adversely affected by the free movement of Labour wanted out. Just looking at the map of the U.K clearly shows all Labour's traditional heartlands, bar inner London and Scotland (who appear to have defected en masse to the SNP), wanted to leave. As for the young being all for the E.U, l'm pretty sure their sentiment would change if they lived in Greece and saw first hand how the young are being royally screwed over by the E.U and their bankster allies. 50% youth unemployment and being asset stripped while the E.U refuses to let them declare bankruptcy. The E.U is a neo-liberal super state that uses free movement of labour to drive down wages. Labour will never be relevant again until they acknowledge this fact.

www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/1 ... my_Corbyn/ A fantastically refreshing piece of common sense. I am, however, starting to worry about Corbyn's safety.

www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/1 ... my_Corbyn/ A fantastically refreshing piece of common sense. I am, however, starting to worry about Corbyn's safety.

By "refreshing" I assume you mean putting across views that chime with your own? They are both utter tripe as far as I can tell. The establishment might well fear a move towards socialism, but that has not and will not ever happen under Corbyn.

Perhaps the oddest thing for me with respect to so much of the commentary in favour of Corbyn is the sheer hypocrisy of it.

Firstly Corbynistas (I feel able to use that ridiculous term because Corbyn acolytes love to do the same) constantly bemoan him being demonised by the press whilst happily demonising Labour MPs who don't rate him (Blairites, Bliarites, Tory Lites, Neo-Libs, Red Tories etc etc).

The second issue is the irony of ignoring Corbyn's history of defying the party whip yet complaining about disloyalty of others. Somehow when Jeremy defied the party it was a moral stance, and yet when MPs defy him its disloyal? Just staggering hypocrisy.

The worst thing is that when some Labour MPs have reported threats from supposed Labour supporters for their lack of loyalty to the great man (who unlike Corbyn's fans actually have to work with him), its downplayed as just part of the hurly burly of politics, aided by Corbyn's pathetically lukewarm response. Corbyn himself has made (very thinly) veiled threats about deselection for MPs who who show disloyalty to him.

If it wasn't a major threat to democracy this whole thing would be laughable. Sadly the Judean People's Front vs People's Front of Judea is being played out real time by the supposed opposition.

I'm not even kicking around for the vote.

Not my party any more. I quit on Saturday.

For the record, I would have abandoned all principles to support the candidate who, when sending canvassing emails and texts, used the preferred name I supplied instead of my full first and middle names in all caps. It's an experience not unlike being shouted at by my mother.