I'm very sceptical of Snowden. He has all the makings of an intelligence operation. Ex-military. Applied for special forces but supposedly didn't make it (which means he likely did and he's been "sheep dipped"icon_wink.gif. I think he went to somewhere like the Monterray School of Languages - which is a big "no no". As is the fact that he was working as a fully-fledged CIA operative in Switzerland. The guy is a spook.

His behaviour after he "downloaded" anywhere up to a million classified-or-above files from the NSA's servers (without their knowledge) screams spook.

The Snowden operation is a complex, multi-layered one serving several purposes which would take me too long to speculate on. Suffice to say that people should take note of [iwhat was going on in the world[/i the day the Snowden story broke.

John Young at cryptome.org has been holding Snowden & Glenn Greenwald's feet to the fire over the non-appearance of the overwhelming majority of these stolen files. Greenwald himself seems to be doing very well out of the whole affair landing a lucrative media opportunity with that very shady character, Pierre Omidyar (and ... believe it or not ... Booz-Allen Hamilton!).

I mean, what really has Snowden (and Julian Assange) released? It's a similar story to another Guardian-led operation which has emerged recently, "The Panama Papers". I said BEFORE I'd even seen the story that the number one target would be Putin and very, very few US or UK-based businessmen would be touched. When you look closely at Snowden, Assange & the Panama Papers it soon becomes apparent that aside from one or two minor incidents which result in some mid-level intelligence dweeb or squaddie in the US being thrown to the wolves the great majority of content is aimed directly at Russia, the BRICS nations and certain unfriendly Gulf states.

None of these people would ever have received the press they've garnered if they were legitimate. BTW, I'm not suggesting that they are knowingly part of a deception. There are plenty of "useful fools" in the world...

I know its been mentioned for a little while but, it certainly never made the press before, during or after the campaign.
Using the modern analogy, usually favoured by Labour, it would certainly pay for a few schools and hospitals or care for the elderly.

Who cares about that - the NHS is in rude health, and once all the nasty immigrants are kicked out of the waiting rooms, Dr's and nurses will be sitting around twiddling their thumbs; or at least the ones who weren't immigrants will be.

The folly in letting French and German energy companies buy half of our suppliers is now apparent post the Brexit vote.
nPower is to raise gas prices by 5% and electricity by a whopping 15%

And rather than the rest sticking together and shafting the greedy s , they will follow suit and shaft US!

Also, if I am correct, we are connected to the French grid. At periods like breakfast and tea time we are importing electricity from France.

What kind of dumb-ass thinking got us here?

If Brexit doesn't result in a change of tack, then I will be staggered.

Keep the coal-fired stations going now.

How will Brexit make any difference ?
The deals with EDF, to build new Nuclear Power Stations have already been signed (prior to the referendum) and we have effectively agreed to I think a 30% increase by 2020 ?.
Unless you think that Brexit will change this, which it wont, you should expect your energy costs to rise steadily until 2020 and probably beyond.
If we were still digging coal from the ground we may still have some control but, instead, we have put our energy supplies in French hands, oh yeah and then fallen out with them

All good stuff.

At least we will have "control"

Please use the thread 'Brexit Anyone? (2)' as we are well past the 1000-post limit ... the most recent posts are there.

Thank you.