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The older I get, the better I was
Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
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"No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg |
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Where does the tax payers money originate? The government doesn't generate money it only has two ways of generating income
How much money has the government received from the banks since 2008, compared to how they threw at the banks to bail them out?
The way governments usually get out of debt is through inflation. Something that is hardly likely to ever happen, all the time the incumbent incompetents insist on continuing their ideologically-driven austerity programme.
If the money that was printed for the benefits of the banks and the already rich, instead been directed into capital projects, such as council house-building, or other infrastructure improvements, many more people would be better off today
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| Quote: HullFC_1865 "not my responsibility, I am firmly a greedy capitalist, if others cannot be bothered to get off their backsides and achieve then that is up to them.'"
Do you also find self loathing therapeutic as well as despising individuals less fortunate than yourself? |
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Or take the bull by the horns and rely on themselves to make a difference for themselves and possibly some others?'"
You mean running their own business? |
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| Quote: HullFC_1865 "not my responsibility, I am firmly a greedy capitalist, if others cannot be bothered to get off their backsides and achieve then that is up to them.'"
You said people should get off their backsides and do something to change their situation.
Does that include working together with others to improve many peoples working lives? |
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Where is the like button?
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The thing is, if all these people "got off their backsides, and achieved" then the world would essentially grind to a halt. Who would stack the shelves in the supermarket? Who would load the luggage on to the planes at the airport? Who would process the invoices for all the "achievers"?
What would happen if developing commodity exporting countries, and the workers within those countries working for peanuts because they don't feel they have another choice suddenly realised that they're being bent over, and actually started charging a more appropriate price for their labour, commodities?
The fact is, big business needs a significant amount of unskilled labour to pick from to exploit. It needs a high level of poverty, and corruption in developing countries to keep their import costs down.
Governments need people on welfare to buy votes. Big business needs government, to be able the pass legislation that favours their interests.
There're are definitely people in society who are parasites, and exploit the system, but many of those people are the ones who designed the system in the first place.
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