He's correct. Most of what you wrote is total bollox.

When did the Labour party decide that the current leadership voting system was wrong?

They didn't?

Oh, OK then

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The Labour Party is certainly in a mess. Having been routed in the general election any leader of stature would have resigned but remained in office long enough for the party to regroup and agree what went wrong and plan for how they should go forward before electing a new leader. Instead the humiliated Ded Ed just ran away abdicating all responsibility and still believing he was right and the public were wrong. To think he was standing to be our Prime Minister!

So Labour rushed into a leadership election with a rag bag mix of candidates made up of those tainted by Labour's former economic incompetence and others destined to remain as just others.

They now seem rudderless with no credible policies. Having been against an EU referendum they now vote for one having stated that they back the government in seeking changes to our membership but will back the vote to stay in at any cost.

The Labour party have deserved all they have got and I think they will take a long time to recover in the future be it with the over ambitious Burnham or the more genuine but off the wall Corbyn.

The problem with Labour as I have been saying for along time is they need to decide what they stand for, who they represent and what policies they will adopt. The fact that they cannot or will not say what they are for in simple, easily understood tells the electorate all they need know - ie the parliamentary Labour party are a self-serving rabble.

I'm beginning to think it might be necessary for Labour to elect someone like Corbyn and let him succeed or fail.

All any Labour Party member needs to do is look at the back of their membership card. The very first statement reads: "The Labour Party is a democratic, socialist party"

If the have any problem with democracy or socialism, then I'd suggest they chose the wrong party.

If Corbyn is elected leaqder (which I now sincerely hope he is), then I look forward to his first PMQs. I have a strong feeling that he won't be engaging in the usual Punch & Judy show that we have seen for decades. His naturally quiet demeanour will show Camoron and his baying mob up for the hooray Henrys that they truly are

Thats the bit that I am hoping too, the very first thing he says at the very first PMQ should be "I will not shout, I will not interrupt you when you are speaking but if you want to hear what I have to say as part of our democratic process then you need to sit down and STFU", then he sits down and waits for the reaction - there is no response to that which will NOT make the opposition look like the posh boys tag that Cameron so hates, other than to do what he suggests - and that style needs to be followed constantly, he is miked up anyway and anything he says is recorded in Hansard so if the baying mob are really interested in any for of democracy then they'll have to listen or read up on it later.

Who reads Hansard?

The baying mob is made up of both sides of the House. The Labour MPs expect their guy to put up a fight, give the Tory a kicking. Will Corbyn have the stomach to consistently adopt that style when week after week he sits down to stony silence from the MPs behind him?

I too hope Corbyn becomes leader of the Labour Party and also will look forward to PMQ's when the PM responds to Comrade Corbyn. It will be fascinating to learn if Comrade Corbyn has the backing of his party to pursue his policy to pull out of NATO and the EU and then there will be so much fun as we learn of how quickly the Comrade's economic policies plan to ruin the country.

Thats the whole point, there should be no baying mob.

Have you ever sat in a company board room where directors meet to discuss important issues that affect the well being of the company and all of its employees and customers ?

How long do you think your directorship would last if every time anyone else opened their mouths to speak, you tried to shout them down, I'd give you ten minutes before you're stood on the street outside with a box full of photographs from your desk and wondering how you're going to get home without the company car tonight.