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| Quote: Mugwump "I've never used it. But I would have no concerns about doing so. Of course I always advise people to buy the best glass they can afford. But unless image sharpness and lens distortion are absolutely critical issues I wouldn't waste the money. Professional level lenses are meant for professionals. I'm not saying amateurs should steer clear but you really need to know a good deal about photography before you'll be able to get the best out of a professional lens.
I've seen people throw two grand at a professional 18-55mm or a 22mm-80mm workhorse lens and a 70/200mm intermediate zoom and yet they scarcely know how to operate their own camera. I haven't the heart to tell them they've wasted their money.
I'd definitely be wary of spending big on a 500mm lens. Unless you are a dedicated wildlife photographer shooting at least once per week you're really not going to get a lot of work out of it. My 70-200mm cost me a grand and yet I doubt I shoot more than 5% of my photographs with it. If you are going to invest big money pile it into an everyday use zoom. At least then you are getting value for money.
I began with Canon - simply because it was a big name and the entry level bodies were affordable. I briefly moved over to the Sony Alpha system but even though I really rated the Alpha bodies the choice of lenses was very limited.
I have some very real criticisms of Canon (and Nikon) especially in relation to pricing. But you can't knock Canon's catalog of lenses. For instance I don't know any manufacturer who currently offers FOUR separate professional-standard 70-200mm lenses.
So whilst other manufacturers are undoubtedly forging ahead of Canon and Nikon in terms of camera bodies - all of them are way behind on glass. And as any photographer will tell you - glass is the most important factor when buying into any camera system. Good glass lasts you a lifetime whereas camera bodies are often outdated within 18 months.'"
In my case I take 95%+ with at least a 200mm lens and usually 300mm (biggest I have) as I principally photograph wildlife, especially birds. I have only put on a "standard" lens for about 5 minutes in the last year! Yes, I agree that lenses are more important than the box that holds them but as I was not prepared to spend several thousand pounds on a professional standard camera the K3 came out best for my needs - fully waterproof, robust, good IQ, 8 fps. etc. Problem is I like to take close ups (often necessarily cropped) of birds and so the kit lenses that came with the camera, whilst good, are not good enough for the perfectionist in me!
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| Quote: Dally "They were JPEGs. Maybe I should take another look at the camera's software to see if it processes RAW files! If I recall the software crashes on my computer and I am using my wife's software from a compact camera.
Back to the cheap lens, yes those pictures are reasonable and the cat one pretty good. But, shooting at a longer range results to date have been poor.
On a different note, I am wondering whether a Sigma 150-500mm lens (c. £600) would be worth it? I know their top of the range version (more expensive) can produce petty impressive results, but I am not sure about spending £600 on something which may not be top notch. Do you have any experience of this particular lens?
Sadly, Pentax lenses are expensive - c. £1,000 for a 300mm f4 prime lens. Maybe I should have transferred over to Canon / Nikon when I got my last camera! But the Pentax K3 came out better in reviews than the equivalent Canon / Nikon cameras and is a great top end consumer level camera.'"
I have this lens and use it all regularly, I like it. It is very good hand held at 500mm with the Sigma OS settings. Apart from the Canon 'nifty fifty' all my lenses are Sigma, the 105mm Macro and the 10-20mm 3.5 WA often top the ratings on test in the Canon edition of Photo Plus. I use the 70D which is excellent.
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| Quote: Dally "I have never used Photoediting software other than that from a disk that came with a camera. Are Photoshop / others much better than that sort of thing. I have never shot in RAW because the editing software that came with the camera does not seem to deal with it.
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I took the plunge on the Adobe monthly subscription (£8.75) for which I get the latest Photoshop and Lightroom 6, these are updated to keep pace with changes. I have began to use PS more and am slowly getting to grips with it, but as said on here it is a professional tool and takes a lot of getting use to. I have used LR to play with RAW images, but tend to use PS more often. The good thing is that you hardly miss the monthly fee and it's yearly equivelant is the same buying Element outright (not including upgrades).
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| Not sure if this thread is worth resurrecting since the last post was 18 months ago, but here goes.
I need to buy a travel friendly camera, something that takes sharp shots, decent auto focus, not too big/bulky or takes ages to set up but has a good zoom - probably for no more than £300.
Any suggestions?
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Quote: Mike Oxlong "Not sure if this thread is worth resurrecting since the last post was 18 months ago, but here goes.
I need to buy a travel friendly camera, something that takes sharp shots, decent auto focus, not too big/bulky or takes ages to set up but has a good zoom - probably for no more than £300.
Any suggestions?'"
Can't pretend to be up to date on all options and prices but from what I have seen Panasonic Lumix compacts are very good. For their modest price Nikon Coolpix compacts (if they still make them) are very good. Canon bridge cameras seem very good too.
Edit: Could try this website (one of the places I buy stuff from) - you can input camera type, brand, price range and then look at the options. When you have decided what suits you can then shop around. For a UK based supplier they have been good for what I have bought and you can speak to the on 'phone
https://www.cliftoncameras.co.uk/Compac ... icerange/2
(NB That link is to compact systems - the "digital cameras" section is probably more help).
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Quote: Mike Oxlong "Not sure if this thread is worth resurrecting since the last post was 18 months ago, but here goes.
I need to buy a travel friendly camera, something that takes sharp shots, decent auto focus, not too big/bulky or takes ages to set up but has a good zoom - probably for no more than £300.
Any suggestions?'"
Can't pretend to be up to date on all options and prices but from what I have seen Panasonic Lumix compacts are very good. For their modest price Nikon Coolpix compacts (if they still make them) are very good. Canon bridge cameras seem very good too.
Edit: Could try this website (one of the places I buy stuff from) - you can input camera type, brand, price range and then look at the options. When you have decided what suits you can then shop around. For a UK based supplier they have been good for what I have bought and you can speak to the on 'phone
https://www.cliftoncameras.co.uk/Compac ... icerange/2
(NB That link is to compact systems - the "digital cameras" section is probably more help).
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| Thx guys, all photo very interesting
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