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| Those are not bad photographs. Did you shoot native jpeg or convert from RAW?
Generally speaking the software you get with the camera is pretty good at RAW conversion. Technically speaking it should provide better results than Adobe Camera Raw (which is the plug-in for both Elements and Photoshop) because it is the manufacturer's own software. No one knows the peculiarities of how cameras create RAW files better than makers so the algorithms used should be the most finely tuned of the lot. I say SHOULD because these days Canon & Nikon etc. tend to palm bundled software off to third-party developers in whose hands pretty much anything can happen.
Adobe Camera Raw is a superb piece of software, tho. I mean, it's entirely possible to handle ALL post-processing within this plug-in (including more complex activities such as airbrushing, adding neutral density filters, gradients, masks, lens correction, perspective shifts etc.) without ever needing to drop the image into the parent software (whether it be Elements of Photoshop).
On the subject of lenses. Thirty years ago you'd certainly think twice about using third-party non-proprietary lenses such as Tamron or Sigma. Very often the reverse-engineering process which allowed them to "talk" to the camera and work in unison with the camera's highly sensitive light-metering systems was flawed to say the least. Worse still the lenses themselves yielded all kinds of unwanted effects such as image distortion and chromatic aberration.
These days, however, the build quality is significantly better. Sigma, Tamron, Tokina etc. all use high-precision laser C&C to cut their bodies and glass down to very precise tolerances. I have a couple of the higher-end Sigma "EX" lenses and the build quality is definitely as good if not better than standard Canon lenses - if not quite up to Canon's pro series. Unless you are really, really picky about geometric distortion it's perfectly possible to get by with even entry level stuff right up to professional level.
I mean, I have several very expensive pro-level "L" series Canon lenses. Whilst they yield demonstrably cleaner images with better bokeh, lower chroma etc. I could easily live without all of such. The only drawback to entry level and third party lenses is build quality. Canon's "L" series are built to last with all-metal bodies and full weatherproofing. That's something I can't do without when I'm shooting professionally outside in bad weather. And you have the confidence in knowing that if you drop them on the floor they are not going to explode into a million pieces. It's the same story with my cameras. I could quite easily get by using a 700D or whatever they are named these days. But these polycarbonate bodies just can't match the durability of my Canon 7D and 5D MKII.
One welcome development in the field of photography is the arrival of the Chinese and their heavily subsidised equipment. For years Chinese equipment was nothing short of a joke. But recently they've really got their act together. A good example would be Yongnuo and their astonishingly cheap flashes and transmitters.
For years if you wanted to buy a decent Canon flash you either had to fork out £220+ for the standard models and anywhere up to £500 for their top end stuff. Meanwhile a set of professional wireless triggers would set you back the best part of £800.
Admittedly the Yongnuo stuff isn't built to the same rock-solid Canon standard. But they are close. And getting closer. However, it's on COST where Yongnuo really kick ass. For the price of ONE of Canon's top end flashes I can probably buy EIGHT Yongnuo strobes all with built in wireless receivers. Sure, they won't last as long but who cares? Break one and you've still got another seven left in the bag.
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| Quote: Dally "They were JPEGs. Maybe I should take another look at the camera's software to see if it processes RAW files! If I recall the software crashes on my computer and I am using my wife's software from a compact camera.
Back to the cheap lens, yes those pictures are reasonable and the cat one pretty good. But, shooting at a longer range results to date have been poor.
On a different note, I am wondering whether a Sigma 150-500mm lens (c. £600) would be worth it? I know their top of the range version (more expensive) can produce petty impressive results, but I am not sure about spending £600 on something which may not be top notch. Do you have any experience of this particular lens?
Sadly, Pentax lenses are expensive - c. £1,000 for a 300mm f4 prime lens. Maybe I should have transferred over to Canon / Nikon when I got my last camera! But the Pentax K3 came out better in reviews than the equivalent Canon / Nikon cameras and is a great top end consumer level camera.'"
I have this lens and use it all regularly, I like it. It is very good hand held at 500mm with the Sigma OS settings. Apart from the Canon 'nifty fifty' all my lenses are Sigma, the 105mm Macro and the 10-20mm 3.5 WA often top the ratings on test in the Canon edition of Photo Plus. I use the 70D which is excellent.
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| Quote: Dally "I have never used Photoediting software other than that from a disk that came with a camera. Are Photoshop / others much better than that sort of thing. I have never shot in RAW because the editing software that came with the camera does not seem to deal with it.
I therefore have a couple of questions
I took the plunge on the Adobe monthly subscription (£8.75) for which I get the latest Photoshop and Lightroom 6, these are updated to keep pace with changes. I have began to use PS more and am slowly getting to grips with it, but as said on here it is a professional tool and takes a lot of getting use to. I have used LR to play with RAW images, but tend to use PS more often. The good thing is that you hardly miss the monthly fee and it's yearly equivelant is the same buying Element outright (not including upgrades).
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| Not sure if this thread is worth resurrecting since the last post was 18 months ago, but here goes.
I need to buy a travel friendly camera, something that takes sharp shots, decent auto focus, not too big/bulky or takes ages to set up but has a good zoom - probably for no more than £300.
Any suggestions?
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Quote: Mike Oxlong "Not sure if this thread is worth resurrecting since the last post was 18 months ago, but here goes.
I need to buy a travel friendly camera, something that takes sharp shots, decent auto focus, not too big/bulky or takes ages to set up but has a good zoom - probably for no more than £300.
Any suggestions?'"
Can't pretend to be up to date on all options and prices but from what I have seen Panasonic Lumix compacts are very good. For their modest price Nikon Coolpix compacts (if they still make them) are very good. Canon bridge cameras seem very good too.
Edit: Could try this website (one of the places I buy stuff from) - you can input camera type, brand, price range and then look at the options. When you have decided what suits you can then shop around. For a UK based supplier they have been good for what I have bought and you can speak to the on 'phone
https://www.cliftoncameras.co.uk/Compac ... icerange/2
(NB That link is to compact systems - the "digital cameras" section is probably more help).
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Quote: Mike Oxlong "Not sure if this thread is worth resurrecting since the last post was 18 months ago, but here goes.
I need to buy a travel friendly camera, something that takes sharp shots, decent auto focus, not too big/bulky or takes ages to set up but has a good zoom - probably for no more than £300.
Any suggestions?'"
Can't pretend to be up to date on all options and prices but from what I have seen Panasonic Lumix compacts are very good. For their modest price Nikon Coolpix compacts (if they still make them) are very good. Canon bridge cameras seem very good too.
Edit: Could try this website (one of the places I buy stuff from) - you can input camera type, brand, price range and then look at the options. When you have decided what suits you can then shop around. For a UK based supplier they have been good for what I have bought and you can speak to the on 'phone
https://www.cliftoncameras.co.uk/Compac ... icerange/2
(NB That link is to compact systems - the "digital cameras" section is probably more help).
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