@BobbyLuvsDave ?





Bingo.

BTW, Harvest festival <> foodbank.

Easily counters ?

How do you reconcile the article headline "No ID, no checks... and vouchers for sob stories: The truth behind those shock food bank claims" with the content of the story further down when the reporter states that he was asked for his personal details and then had to answer a series of questions before the CAB considered which charity to refer him to.

Do you feel misled by The Sunday Mail on that one item alone ?

Do you wonder why they misled you in the header (which seemingly they did, easily) ?

Do you wonder why The Sunday Mail chose to insert the phrase "asylum seekers" into its second paragraph, could it be that its their traditional way of winding up their clientele into a foaming fury so that they gloss over the fine detail and the web of lies they spun to write the piece, did they hook you too ?

Incidentally the charity did nothing wrong and did not step outside their remit, they asked for, and received the voucher of entitlement to three days rations, they did not give anything away without proof of need and in this respect the reporter failed in his smear mission, in fact as a direct response to the story the charity have reported this evening that they have received cash donations in excess of £19,000 attributed to the smear - another shot through the foot for The Fail ?

Thank you for your input.

Your posts elucidate my comments and once again show that when a question is asked you obfuscate and bring back the stock dogma, this time hate.

For politeness sake and the edification of those who may want to know, besides me, will you answer the questions previously asked and a couple more.

Of what , whom or whatever am I envious off?

To whom have I been abusive?

Where in my posts has hate been written and about what?

How do you know my comments have been ignored?

and, this is the difficult question, and one I must admit I find some struggle with, I have perhaps a reasonably clear idea, if there is right and left wing, where is the centre?

I look forward to yours reply the same way I get replies to questions asked of AJW amongst others.

Howzabout this [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10771855/The-Jamaican-murderer-we-cant-deport-because-he-claims-to-be-gay.htmlspecimen[/url as an asylum seeker then Mr Chicken.

Black....illegal.....and now apparently so gay, he would find his life endangered back home. I should imagine that would tick enough boxes to get the usual suspects on here to start waving their PC placards.

Shame about the drug dealing and murder though, eh?

You see you are incapable of forming any sort of argument. Just one line rhetoric from a growth denier.

Until you can argue you case I shall ignore you like everyone else.

Still nothing to refuted the recovery and growth evidence then?

Simple question

Which economy?


and if it is possible, answer my others as you made the assertions.


As mentioned previously, the replies or, lack of, really elucidate the comments made.

The sad part is really that you have been let down by the current system and you don't know why.

You missed the last piece of The Mail jigsaw of outrage - the 16 year old that he murdered was Somalian and also a refugee, probably seeking asylum.

Mr Middle-England would explode with rage over his cornflakes if he read the whole of that report, illegal immigrant kills asylum seeker, serves life sentence at our expense, then can't be deported because he's gay and the European Human Rights people say it would be cruel.

Unless he now wants to marry a gay man in a church I think all the bases are covered there, I expect that Mr Farage is drawing up his leaflet campaign at this very moment.

Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"It's not propaganda though is it. Getting things for free [iis [/i popular. Is the 'outrage' regarding the Daily Mail article because it so easily counters the 'you must be referred' rhetoric?'" The a quote from the Trussell Trust seems to sum this up nicely - "We'd rather feed 10 Daily Mail journalists than see someone with a need go hungry" www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01xqh7t

Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"It's not propaganda though is it. Getting things for free [iis [/i popular. Is the 'outrage' regarding the Daily Mail article because it so easily counters the 'you must be referred' rhetoric?'" The a quote from the Trussell Trust seems to sum this up nicely - "We'd rather feed 10 Daily Mail journalists than see someone with a need go hungry" www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01xqh7t

As self-serving as this may sound, having recently returned to the UK, my observations on the general state of things that affect me are as follows:

Petrol is cheaper than when I left. Or perhaps my car just has a smaller tank than the one I used to drive.

My mortgage has gone down. Probably because I came off the fixed-rate deal I entered into a few years ago. Best get it fixed on a 5 year deal before interest rates go back up next year.

When I visit a coffee shop in London, the chances are the parking meter outside earns more than the person serving me.

£5 for a pint of Peroni. In a 'normal' bar in Derby. Really?

House prices (and subsequently rent) in the south-east are, frankly, ridiculous. There is no way on earth a single person can get on the property ladder here without parental help. (For many people houses are no longer seen as homes or places to put down roots. They are seen as buy-to-let investments.)

Long distance train fares are a complete and utter joke unless you book well in advance.

Quite a few of the civil servants that worked at my place when I was seconded abroad 2 years ago have been made redundant, or not replaced after they moved on. This is a good thing. Since most of them were completely useless.

Despite the claimed need for austerity, someone has found the money to install gantry cameras on large sections of the M1. I find this somewhat bizarre, since we are constantly told cameras are about safety and motorways are our safest roads.

Was in London on Saturday. Went to an old watering hole near Covent Garden I used to frequent after work quite often and a pint of Peroni was £5.14.



We were staying in Teddington and the house prices there are nuts. A four bedroomed house similar in many ways to mine in Chester (which is probably worth about £300K) was going for £1,395,000. That represented the lower end of the price range for such properties as well.

The cheapest rent being quoted in the same estate agents window was £1,350 per month for a pretty grotty looking two bedroom flat. To rent a house the prices ranged from about double that to £4,700 per month.