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Quote: Dally "See my faslane analogy above. What would Britain do in those circumstances?

Your rant is all well and good, but this thread is not about the rights and wrongs of the situation but about whether the West is being hypocritical. You need to answer the question, not one you would prefer. I believe Iraq was a sovereign state, one along way from the UK, with few ethnic Brits, one that posed no threat to the uk whatsover and yet we joined an invasion despite our one leading legal authority saying it wouldbe illegal. Maybe the West is not being hypoctical because it thinks Russia are pussyfooting about - is that you view?'"


Iraq was not a sovereign state. A nation is only sovereign in any meaningful sense of the word when it is governed by the people. Iraq was governed by a dictatorship that massacred hundreds of thousands of its own citizens, supported terrorism and had launched a series of brutal wars against its neighbours. One legal authority said the war was illegal, others said it was legal. The UN did not pass a resolution condemning the invasion and indeed after Saddam was removed from power it passed a resolution legitimising the invasion. There is no case to suggest it was an illegal war.

Ukraine on the otherhand is led by a government approved by an elected parliament. The previous president was ejected from power by the elected parliament, as its is prerogative under the Ukrainian constitute. Given that it is led by a democratic government which will be either approved or removed in the upcoming elections, it is a sovereign nation in the truest sense of the word. Ukraine does not threaten its neighbours nor does it sponsor terrorism.

Therefore the West is not being hypocritical at all. In both Iraq and Ukraine it is standing up for democracy.

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I think this sums up things reasonably well:

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... Putin.html
I think this sums up things reasonably well:

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... Putin.html


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As an aside...Peter Hitchens, what a humourless turd he is.

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An example of the new 'democrats' in action.

www.nydailynews.com/news/world/h ... -1.1727271

I also see Clegg somehow thinks he's got Farage on the ropes, accusing him of supporting Putin because he said the EU has blood on it's hands in regards to Ukraine. He intends bringing this point up in their next head to head debate. I really hope he does because I'm pretty sure Farage will demolish him and expose some truths about the people our leaders are supporting over there.
An example of the new 'democrats' in action.

www.nydailynews.com/news/world/h ... -1.1727271

I also see Clegg somehow thinks he's got Farage on the ropes, accusing him of supporting Putin because he said the EU has blood on it's hands in regards to Ukraine. He intends bringing this point up in their next head to head debate. I really hope he does because I'm pretty sure Farage will demolish him and expose some truths about the people our leaders are supporting over there.


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Far Right protesters ready to storm parliament.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -vote.html
Far Right protesters ready to storm parliament.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -vote.html


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German TV investigates who was responsible for the murderous sniper attacks in Kiev, evidence points to the Opposition being involved but the Western powers seem happy to have it all covered up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDPJ-uc ... e=youtu.be
German TV investigates who was responsible for the murderous sniper attacks in Kiev, evidence points to the Opposition being involved but the Western powers seem happy to have it all covered up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDPJ-uc ... e=youtu.be


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