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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Anyway, back to the plot. Is it right that DLT should face retrial after the last multi-charge fiasco? Or is it fair enough that he gets another session of gavage?
There are times when I can see the argument that there should be a retrial but this surely isn't one of them; a jury has had to sit through weeks of all the details and has acquitted on nearly all charges, and not found sufficient evidence to convict either absolutely or by majority on the remaining two. Given his acquittal on the large majority of charges, which should never have been brought, his age, and the huge impact the charges of which he was innocent have already caused on his life, I don't see the justice in letting the CPS have a second crack. Surely he's been punished enough already, even while not found guilty of any wrongdoing?'"
Before I start I am amazed that there is to be a retrial. BUT. Given that we have no idea what the jury were thinking during the first trial other than the questions that were asked of the judge during deliberation it might not be such a surprise. They did ask if they should find a person guilty as they believed the accuser. I don't have a link I only know from following the reporters at the trail on twitter.
Now this says quite a lot to me. Its an indication that the prosecution may have a case. I know no more than that. I am aware of the "culture" at the material time. But equally I am also aware of the law as it stood at the material time. So sexual touching was as bad then as it is now. Did he do it? I don't know, but I think to a certain extent its not for us, the CPS or a judge to decide, but for a jury. I suspect the make up of a jury will be a big deciding factor. A few men and women who are of retirement age may well swing it one way or the other. Rightly or wrongly.
Equally there appears to have been further allegations. Witch hunt or genuine? Police damned if the do and damned if they don't. Its a difficult one.
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| The Times has also discovered that the barrister advising Alsion Saunders worked, until recently at the same chambers as Janner's son
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| Quote: cod'ead "According to the Sunday Times, just two weeks ago Janner signed a request to extend his membership of the HoL despite his leave of absence'"
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Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't
I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy
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cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen"
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| At least Keith Harris died before he could face charges of sticking his hand up a young bird
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| Quote: cod'ead "At least Keith Harris died before he could face charges of sticking his hand up a young bird'"
What an orville thing to say
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