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Quote: West Leeds Rhino "Religion has no place in politics. While I agree with them that the rich are getting richer and there are people who are struggling to survive, this doesn't mean that the government should give some free money away. There will always be people who prioritise smoking, drinking, gambling, etc over eating properly, no matter how much you give them to live on. Just because society seems to put a high value on the opinions of the clergy, doesn't mean they actually know what they are talking about.

On a related note, you can tell Cameron's not going hungry in that picture!'"


So are you suggesting that people who hold religious beliefs should be barred from public office and disenfrachised? Religion is a way of looking at the world and the relationship between people, the world and other people. If somebody holds religious beliefs it would be very difficult if not impossible for those beliefs not to influence their political views. Therefore there is possible way to divorce religion from politics without banning people who hold religious views from participating in our democratic system.

If you believe that this should be the case, then I would like to know why the opinions of a non-religious person are inherently superior to those of a religious person? Should a person really be disenfranchised just because they oppose the killing of children or military action abroad for example. There is no evidence that the political views of the non-religious are any better than those of the religious. Monotheistic religious beliefs have led to the Inquisition, Crusades and Jihand for sure. But then atheist beliefs have led to the Holocaust, World War 2, the Great Terror, the Gulag, the Cultural Revolution.

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I got a Microsoft qualification (certificate signed by Bill gates and everything) in SQL Server 2005 integration and other bollax simply by attending a course for a week, letting them feed me for five days, not understanding anything that was going on around me, then finding all the answers to the exam at the end were on a CD tucked in the back of the course manual - copied off that during the online exam and got full marks & was the only one in the room to do so - a room full of local authority database programmers and geeks.

I didn't join in the debate at the end where one of the questions was revealed to have the wrong answer though, just slipped out the back door with my certificate and my 100% mark with the wrong answer.

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Quote: WIZEB "Steve, ex-army, by the book to the point of pedantry.
I left him under no illuions after the first half hour of the first class!

He was trying to rally the troops (a mixture of young and old, several with obvious substance abuse problems) that the course was nothing to do with the DSS and we were all going to have a bit of fun and a jolly.
I cut his legs off early doors by pointedly informing him that is was opaquely apparent that neither myself or fellow students (
Definitely sounds like Barbara to me. Did any of the substance abuse people want to be firemen?

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Quote: Ovavoo "Definitely sounds like Barbara to me. Did any of the substance abuse people want to be firemen?'"


You'll have to feed me a bit more? icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Dally "As the money advice unit told Mrs D the other day - the benefits sysyem is in disarray because the private companies involved are useless. I assume your tutor works for one?'"

and the money advice unit is................a private company more D-b's

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Quote: Standee "and the money advice unit is................a private company more D-b's'"


The money advice unit is part of the County Council, not private.

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