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Quote: Mintball "I know what you mean, but on schools out of catchment areas, I used to travel by two buses to school, eight miles away, from the age of 11. Plenty of other children did too.

And while roads may be busier, at what point do you stop wrapping a child in cotton wool and let them do what they'll have to do at some point – and learn to deal with it?'"

Now, if that's not the nearest available school,, that would be at least £1 fare per journey so £4/day minimum. With access to a car, now many familes have 2 cars and the mother working child friendly hours, it's much cheaper and more convient. Moreover, parents have been doing it since the kids were babies in nursery, so it becomes the norm.

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Quote: Mintball "Seen several of them in London – and loads more in Amsterdam.

They're not new.'"


Agreed - but every time I see one of the pillocks I feel like saying something to them. It is ourageous to risk their kids life like that. The others who wind me up are mothers pushing kids in buggies who walk up to the edge of the kerb and wait because there is heavy traffic - but they have pushed the child into the road. I see that regularly and it sickens me - especially if I am driving past them.

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It's a pity we can't have a few YouTube links to what can be achieved with all manner of stuff precariously balanced and transported on bikes in India.

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Quote: Stand-Offish "It's a pity we can't have a few YouTube links to what can be achieved with all manner of stuff precariously balanced and transported on bikes in India.'"


rlNo need for youtube or to travel as far as Indiarl

Filmed just down the road from me

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To be honest I wouldn't take my young children on a bike through a busy city regardless of what in, or on their own bike, particularly in rush hour.

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Quote: JerryChicken "I'll hold my hand up here, I suspect the answer is "never", I drop my two off at the train station every morning and I sit in the car and watch while they cross the road safely, they are 25 and 21 years old
There speaks a parent. I used to be bemused at my mothers protestations that she never stopped worrying about me when I was at Uni and also in my 20's and 30's even when I was in London but with a son at Uni I can sort of see her point. Mind you my son lets me see his Facebook page and I am stupid enough to look to it's my own fault.

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