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If only Gordon Brown had legislated against your ineptitude, eh?
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This is going to be a very messy 18 months, at the end I'm still of the opinion that the tory 'dirty-tricks' strategy will bite them on the a[ir[/ise'"


Labour would never stoop to such levels....



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Quote: rumpelstiltskin "Is that a West Country homily Coddy? Yes I was aware of The Co-op's traditional relationship, just not aware it was so rlCosyrl

But you will be as disgusted as me at the history of the guy they appointed Chairman.......will you not?'"


Very cosy indeed. But Labour wouldn't cosy up to bankers would they?

Labour have real questions to answer about this scandal. Probably why they are attempting to close down scrutiny by wailing about smears. A timely reminder of the rank hypocrisy and sheer incompetence so rife in the nasty party of British politics.

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Quote: Ajw71 "Very cosy indeed. But Labour wouldn't cosy up to bankers would they?

Labour have real questions to answer about this scandal. Probably why they are attempting to close down scrutiny by wailing about smears. A timely reminder of the rank hypocrisy and sheer incompetence so rife in the nasty party of British politics.'"


Speaking of questions...

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Quote: Dally "Yes - as I said on this thread to the "merger" with Britannia in early 2009.'"


As far as I can tell there was no Labour party involvement in that merger. Ed Balls supported a Tory private members bill that allowed the merger of mutual societies with PLC's and that is it. Has that Tory MP got questions to answer as well?

All Ball's did was support a bill the Co-op was in favour of which is hardly a scandal and its what you would expect a "Labour and Co-operative" MP to do. I dare say the other 30 odd Labour and Co-operative MP's were in favour of it as well. Along with the Tory who's bill it was in the first place!

BTW Ed Balls was Education Secretary in 2009 when the merger occurred and the merger was purely a commercial agreement between two parties that unfortunately for the Co-op was a very bad deal.

It also seems none other than David Davis agrees with the very points I made above about the deal to buy branches from Lloyds

So based on that do you [istill [/ithink the Tories will want this to run and run?

It's pretty clear now the smears and an outright lie from Clegg (he has said Flowers himself gave Ed Balls £50K, not the Co-op group) are not only an attempt to score political points but to deflect attention away from Osborne's and the Treasuries failings regarding the Co-op bank since they have been in office.

IMO they are going to look pretty stupid flinging mud now one of their ow senior politicians is saying Osborne has questions to answer.

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