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To be fair, I should have said the C of E, rather than Christianity or religion, as being on the way out.
Ten per cent more in the UK are now stating that they have no religion than said so ten years earlier and I'm guessing that many would previously simply acceded to being termed as C of E even though they had no real affinity with it.

I am now pondering Mintball's point about the possibility of the failure of the pairing of secularism and capitalism to fill the gap and my first response would be that there are fewer evangelists out there preaching the word about simple, straightforward conscience without religion and, hence, religions are, to a large extent, freed from secular challenge and less hampered in putting forward their prescriptive versions of right and wrong.
The Church of England is way behind the other Abrahamic cults in terms of restrictive codes of practice about diet, observance and even daily dress ... and Conscience has very few, if any.
This is a drawback for them, if you want a really successful religion, it has to have elements of prescription and restriction in it so that people feel they are following an identifiable path via a code supposedly laid down by a higher being and a feeling of "belonging" with those of the same cult.
If the restrictions and impositions in diet, observance and dress make the adherent stand out from others, it can attract criticism and suspicion, ideal components for that feeling of persecution by outsiders which, in turn, increases the feeling of belonging and safety within the cult.

Simple right and wrong doesn't cut it for some people.

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Quote: lfb "I don't know if you saw my edit on my original post, but i did change it "I don't know if you identify as a Christian", i don't want you to think i am trying to force you to define yourself as Christian or otherwise. It's really non of anyone's business, least of all mine.

You are the first person I've come across who has explicitly removed the divinity from Christianity, it just made me curious

Personally I would define a Christian as anyone who calls them self a Christian'"

Didn't see it but read it as that, I think.

Divinity has no place in Christianity. The whole point is that we treat each other as equals no matter who you are. To artificially elevate certain people above others, particularly within a church is completely missing the point. My opinion obviously.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "I am not a religious person but the question still remains regarding the origins of the universe. This has yet to be understood, who is to say it wasn't divine intervention?'"


If you're going with that then, who created God?

If something had to cause the big bang then how did that thing (divine or otherwise) get there? Was there another older God who created the current God? And if so how far back do you go?

It's more reasonable to presume that the Universe has been expanding and contracting over an infinite period of time.

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What if all the world's inside of your head
Just creations of your own?
Your devils and your gods
All the living and the dead
And you're really all alone?

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