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Quote: Cronus "I think the political blame game and points scoring will mean nothing to those badly affected on the street.

But it seems that's all people can focus on here. Perhaps that tells us something.'"


Those responsible need a good kicking. However, I'm not one of those who works in the political/lobbying sphere to earn a living, so have no financial interest in playing the blame game.

These austere times are not as austere as the spin 'tells' us. Just wait until interest rates start to rise, then you'll see the struggles really start when those 100% mortgages are defaulted on.....

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Quote: Sal Paradise "And the difference between the influence his type have on Tory policy and the influence the unions have on Labour policy is what? ...'"

Oooh ... let me try this one ... is it that the former want to sack people without giving a reason and the latter say you should have a bloody good reason?

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Quote: El Barbudo "Oooh ... let me try this one ... is it that the former want to sack people without giving a reason and the latter say you should have a bloody good reason?'"

If it was that simple, surely he wouldn't have missed it though

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Quote: LeighGionaire "Remember when Lehman Brothers Bank collapsed? Gordon Brown bailed out the banks because this is what he was scared of -

"If the banks are shutting their doors, and the cash points aren't working, and people go to Tesco and their cards aren't being accepted, the whole thing will just explode.

"If you can't buy food or petrol or medicine for your kids, people will just start breaking the windows and helping themselves.

"And as soon as people see that on TV, that's the end, because everyone will think that's OK now, that's just what we all have to do. It'll be anarchy. That's what could happen tomorrow."


Here is a good site if you are worried.

www.ukpreppersguide.co.uk/catego ... nformation
Quote: LeighGionaire "Remember when Lehman Brothers Bank collapsed? Gordon Brown bailed out the banks because this is what he was scared of -

"If the banks are shutting their doors, and the cash points aren't working, and people go to Tesco and their cards aren't being accepted, the whole thing will just explode.

"If you can't buy food or petrol or medicine for your kids, people will just start breaking the windows and helping themselves.

"And as soon as people see that on TV, that's the end, because everyone will think that's OK now, that's just what we all have to do. It'll be anarchy. That's what could happen tomorrow."


Here is a good site if you are worried.

www.ukpreppersguide.co.uk/catego ... nformation


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Quote: LeighGionaire "The links you provide kind of back up my claims that under the current debt based money system somebody somewhere always has to be going into further debt to keep the whole system functioning. If new money has to be continually spent into the economy why doesn't a government just create this new money themselves instead of borrowing debt based credit money from banks at interest when the same banks create this credit out if thin air?'"


It does. What do you think quantitative easing is all about? The new money created that is used in quantitative easing is used to buy government bonds off banks who currently hold them. The price of the bonds goes up because of the increased demand and so the profit made by the banks on the sale of the bonds is new money they can lend.

Normally printing money is inflationary but it rarely is in a recession as explained by the second of the two links I posted.

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Quote: DaveO "Normally printing money is inflationary but it rarely is in a recession as explained by the second of the two links I posted.'"


But there is plenty of inflation at the moment, the prime example being house prices. Food also has gone up steadily in price over the last few years. Governments's routinely manipulate the data to exclude things like housing in their inflation figures.

From January 2000 up until May 2010 the M4 money supply increased from 802 Billion to 2200 Billion, all that extra money created and I hardly saw a penny of it hit my wallet - so much for the 'trickle down' effect!

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Quote: DaveO "Normally printing money is inflationary but it rarely is in a recession as explained by the second of the two links I posted.'"


But there is plenty of inflation at the moment, the prime example being house prices. Food also has gone up steadily in price over the last few years. Governments's routinely manipulate the data to exclude things like housing in their inflation figures.

From January 2000 up until May 2010 the M4 money supply increased from 802 Billion to 2200 Billion, all that extra money created and I hardly saw a penny of it hit my wallet - so much for the 'trickle down' effect!

www.bankofengland.co.uk/boeapps/ ... C&Filter=N


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