FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > The Sin Bin > Miranda et al
87 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7152
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2020Jun 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
12389.gif
:12389.gif



Quote: cod'ead "It might be if you ignore the straw men, untruths and a clear and unwavering missing of the point of the stoppage. But I didn't therefore it's another load of ensch bull[is[/ihit'"

How about, oh wizened sage of the seas, you actually explain your little rant in detail?

Sounds increasingly like Mr Miranda has acted as a mule for his journalistic partner or this Laura Poitras and carried stolen classified material (unwittingly or not - if willingly he's lied to airport security) and has spat his dummy now he's been found out. You can see the bottom lip when he's snapped arriving at Rio.

Don't want to be picked out for detention and questioning? Don't get involved in the first place. Choose to get involved and don't spit your dummy when you're 'picked on'.

The poor cherub was detained for a whole nine hours. Oh the trauma. I'd be more impressed if they bumped him off by shining a light at his limo as he raced through a Paris tunnel.

RankPostsTeam
International Star3605No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2016May 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
67953_1341943970.jpg
Someday everything is gonna be different, when I paint my masterpiece ---------------------------------------------------------- [url=http://garykitchen.co.uk/:lnkxkae0]Online art gallery, selling original landscape artwork[/url:lnkxkae0] ---------------------------------------------------------- [url=http://jerrychicken.wordpress.com/:lnkxkae0]JerryChicken - The Blog[/url:lnkxkae0] ----------------------------------------------------------:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_67953.jpg



Quote: El Barbudo "That is my point.
Schedule 7 is purported to be an anti-terrorist measure but was used in a case where terrorism is very probably not the issue.
Was it legal? Very probably, under schedule 7.
Was it right? To have an anti-terrorist law where terrorism doesn't even have to be suspected is way too catch-all and wide open for abuse, as this case probably shows.'"



...rather like quoting "anti-terrorism law" to prevent photographers practicing in city centres, something that was enforced by the police until campaigning provided some further guidance after MPs got involved - give a little extra power and it WILL be abused until it gets reigned in again.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member28357
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
973_1515165968.gif
Last edited by Ferocious Aardvark on stardate Jun 26, 3013 11:27 am, edited 48,562,867,458,300,023 times in total:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_973.gif



Quote: El Barbudo "That is my point.
Schedule 7 is purported to be an anti-terrorist measure but was used in a case where terrorism is very probably not the issue.
Was it legal? Very probably, under schedule 7.'"

A bit devil's advocate, but if a person happens to be a mule of stolen security data that poses a grave risk to national security and a threat to life in the wrong hands, then wouldn't it fit under the general label of terrorism-related matters?

Quote: El Barbudo "Was it right? To have an anti-terrorist law where terrorism doesn't even have to be suspected is way too catch-all and wide open for abuse, as this case probably shows.'"

Just the argument that was heard and rejected in yesterday's case, and which will exercise the ECHR in September in another case.

I've now had the opportunity to consider the judgment in rlthe Sylvie Beghal caserl. I must say that I can't fault the logic.

The judgment also refers to annual reports by the Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation, which reviews naturally encompass the Schedule 7 powers, and what sounds like an ongoing number of consultations, checks and balances.

More to the point, The detailed judgment clearly addresses and deals with all the general principle and specific objections that have been raised earlier in the thread.

Hmm.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1978No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2023Dec 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
22483_1351031655.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_22483.jpg



Judging by the latest reports on this Miranda 'row' it sounds like the authorities were right to hold Miranda for every second of his detention.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member37704No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2018Aug 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2051.jpg
The older I get, the better I was Advice is what we seek when we already know the answer - but wish we didn't I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full-frontal lobotomy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kirkstaller wrote: "All DNA shows is that we have a common creator." cod'ead wrote: "I have just snotted weissbier all over my keyboard & screen" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "No amount of cajolery, and no attempts at ethical or social seduction, can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred for the Tory Party. So far as I am concerned they are lower than vermin." - Aneurin Bevan:2051.jpg



Quote: Ajw71 "Judging by the latest reports on this Miranda 'row' it sounds like the authorities were right to hold Miranda for every second of his detention.'"


More to the point, why were so many UK secrets entrusted to a relatively low-level operative like Snowden?

I'd also suggest there's more chance of secrets being leaked while in the hands of the Met than any journalist

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member14522No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2014Jan 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1136_1263489772.jpg
Freedom without Socialism is privilege and injustice. Socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1136.jpg



Quote: Ajw71 "Judging by the latest reports on this Miranda 'row' it sounds like the authorities were right to hold Miranda for every second of his detention.'"

... and then let him go?
Doesn't square does it?

87 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
87 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


5.212890625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
22m
Shopping list for 2025
RockNRolla
3200
Recent
Squads - Leopards v Giants
satanicmills
4
Recent
Odsal lease up for sale
Wigan Bull
162
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Zig
2468
8s
Tonights game v Leeds
karetaker
21
16s
Watson Been Stood Down
Deeeekos
2
19s
Saints h
Zig
21
42s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
37985
47s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
1878
55s
FC v hull kr
Jake the Peg
61
56s
Shopping list for 2025
RockNRolla
3200
57s
For the live of god Arthur out
batleyrhino
15
1m
Warrington Wolves Into Second With Win Over Leeds
RLFANS News
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Tonights game v Leeds
karetaker
21
TODAY
Watson toast
Willzay
5
TODAY
Watson Been Stood Down
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Watson gone
Jo Jumbuck
6
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Giants
satanicmills
4
TODAY
Just makes me laugh
Wildmoggy
1
TODAY
Anyone know about wfd v batley
Wollo-Wollo-
5
TODAY
Bradford
BigTime
2
TODAY
One more Saints inspired novel
glee
1
TODAY
Bradford Away 140724
RealSteel89
9
TODAY
Fax v Fev
The Phantom
2
TODAY
Cas
RfE
4
TODAY
Round 17 Warrington Away
Les Norton
77
TODAY
Saints h
Zig
21
TODAY
For the live of god Arthur out
batleyrhino
15
TODAY
Arthur In
KaeruJim
38
TODAY
Wakefield H
Peter Goddar
10
TODAY
Squad for Leeds
Or thane
13
TODAY
Academy Internationa
Winslade's O
1
TODAY
Jamie Humphreys NRL Debut
Deadcowboys1
2
TODAY
York v Dons Sunday 14th July 2024 3pm
Double Movem
4
TODAY
Warrington v Wigan Super League game to take place in Las Ve
Saddened!
2
TODAY
Las Vegas Official
TF and the w
20
TODAY
have the rules changed
Spookisback
17
TODAY
FC v hull kr
Jake the Peg
61
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Into Second ..
92
Salford Hold On To Beat Unluck..
710
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
1285
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
1251
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
2257
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1561
Big Win for England Women Over..
1426
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1668
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1758
Super League form rewarded as ..
2040
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
2158
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
2136
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1868
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
2190
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
2276