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Quote: cod'ead "I love this "lifestyle choice" bollox. I certainly never made a lifestyle choice to spend two years wiping [is[/ihit from my daughter's a[ir[/ise or milky spew off my newly dry-cleaned suit'"

You should have kept your cock in your pants then!

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Quote: The Video Ref "If parenting is so bad that the kid needs taking into care, I don't think it is unreasonable for the family in question to make some contribution to the kid's upbringing, finances permitting.

If someone has made a lifestyle choice to have a child, why should the rest of us fund that child if they have the means to do so themselves but, for whatever reason, cannot?'"


We couldn't possibly have citizens taking personal responsibility for their own actions. icon_eek.gif

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Quote: Ajw71 "We couldn't possibly have citizens taking personal responsibility for their own actions. So, you're saying that the only people who should have children are those who are absolutely 100% certain that their income, marital status and circumstances etc will never, ever, change and they will never, ever need help to cope with a child who has difficulties?

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Children being taken into care is one of the most traumatic and damaging times for children.

Anybody who thinks that adding a financial element into this situation is in any way beneficial for the child needs to take personal responsibility for their actions and resign from public life.

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Quite amusing how the pseudo-right-wing contributors (I say pseudo because I can't believe that people can be so dumb) seem to believe that having children is a lifestyle choice in the same way as perhaps buying a Porsche or an expensive BBQ range is and that in making that lifestyle choice you obviously research the subject thoroughly and ensure that future financing will not be a problem.

This will mean of course that you won't be reliant on public funding to have nursery care for the first three years of its life and then educate your child for the next 18 years, whilst all the while not rely on public funding to whelp the sprog and then keep it healthy until it can earn its own money.

In fact I sometimes wonder what the pseudo right wing element think we pay our taxes to national and local government for, or avoid them as the case may be ?

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Quote: JerryChicken "...In fact I sometimes wonder what the pseudo right wing element think we pay our taxes to national and local government for, or avoid them as the case may be ?'"

I reckon they short-sightedly imagine that tax is some sort of punitive fee from which only others will benefit and that they'd like to see abolished ... until they need it themselves.
The politics of selfishness.

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