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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"You don't need to make your own clothes to shop ethically. How much does it take to read a label and check the source of manufacture?'"
it's pretty much the only way to make sure you avoid that nasty, nasty capitalism. you can pretty much guarantee that somewhere along the line someone is making a profit at the expense of someone else.
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| Quote samwire="samwire"it's pretty much the only way to make sure you avoid that nasty, nasty capitalism. you can pretty much guarantee that somewhere along the line someone is making a profit at the expense of someone else.'"
Presumably you're aware that there is no direct link between capitalism and ethics and that one can exist happily within the ethos of the other (in some circumstances) ?
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| Quote samwire="samwire"it's pretty much the only way to make sure you avoid that nasty, nasty capitalism. you can pretty much guarantee that somewhere along the line someone is making a profit at the expense of someone else.'"
Now where did he say that profit and ethics were mutually exclusive, eh?
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"There are exceptions and this forums snappiest dresser Cod'ead will tell you which labels to look for, the ones that actually still do the manufacturing process themselves...'"
It often happens during televised football matches. The commentator praises the quality of a players shooting and the player then gets closer to the corner flag while trying to score a goal.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"I disagree. British people are buying these products in British shops. The companies selling these products in British shops are knowingly sourcing them from cheap producers. A big part of the reason than production is cheap is because of the poor quality of buildings and safety for workers. I think that reflects badly on the morality of British retailers and consumers.'"
My lack of morals shames me and I want the dazzling glow of self-satisfaction that you have. What do I need to do to be more like you?
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| Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"Now where did he say that profit and ethics were mutually exclusive, eh?'"
now where did i say anything about ethics, eh?
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| Quote samwire="samwire"now where did i say anything about ethics, eh?'"
You didn't need to, you'd already made yourself look foolish (yet again), with this:
Quote samwire="samwire"it's pretty much the only way to make sure you avoid that nasty, nasty capitalism. you can pretty much guarantee that somewhere along the line someone is making a profit at the expense of someone else.'"
Now it may come as a surprise to you but I have never had a problem with companies or individuals making a profit. Having been self-employed for the last 12 years, it would be hypocritical of me to decry profit making.
I do have a problem with some methods of achieving profits and what then happens to those profits. The example of Norman Walsh footwear being a graphic case of how a British company can compete in sports footwear by manufacturing in Britain, using British labour, presumably paying at least NMW rates, instead of employing sweat-shop labour in a 3rd world country and then shifting money around the globe in order to minimise tax liability.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"Now it may come as a surprise to you but I have never had a problem with companies or individuals making a profit. Having been self-employed for the last 12 years, it would be hypocritical of me to decry profit making.
I do have a problem with some methods of achieving profits and what then happens to those profits. The example of Norman Walsh footwear being a graphic case of how a British company can compete in sports footwear by manufacturing in Britain, using British labour, presumably paying at least NMW rates, instead of employing sweat-shop labour in a 3rd world country and then shifting money around the globe in order to minimise tax liability.'"
why would it come as a surprise to me, you love profit, look at the way you voted to have the nhs sold off.
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| Quote samwire="samwire"why would it come as a surprise to me, you love profit, look at the way you voted to have the nhs sold off.'"
If you are struggling (which you certainly seem to be) to engage in discussion of the subject at hand, may I suggest you read what Mintball had to say on the Abu Qatada thread?
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Second – this is an ideal opportunity to make a larger reminder to some of our trolls that, in general, this has been a tad more civilised a place recently. So, a) let's keep that going. b) If any of you have nothing more to contribute than the same 'arguments', over and over, illustrating only that either you are incapable of understanding what has been posted in response previously or have no inclination to do so, then action will be taken. Such an approach contributes absolutely nothing of value to any discussion.'"
Your trolling on this and various other threads is becoming tedious, it wouldn't be too bad if you were any good at it but compared to some, you are a rank amateur.
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| Of course over here a clothing firm would never be able to create jobs because some civil servant would come round the building with his clipboard saying can't build it like that it breaks some EU directive on health and safety.
Which is why everybody in the UK is unemployed and the third world is growing fast whilst we are stagnant.
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| Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Of course over here a clothing firm would never be able to create jobs because some civil servant would come round the building with his clipboard saying can't build it like that it breaks some EU directive on health and safety.
Which is why everybody in the UK is unemployed and the third world is growing fast whilst we are stagnant.'"
Perhaps we should opt out of all this EU stuff and H&S stuff, then we can build huge factories with massive sleeping areas for the workforce to do 18 hrs before squeezing in with 300 others for a kip. They could also cook their own food on an open fire in the middle of it if we opted out of other H&S measures on food hygiene, quality control etc. Because they would have bed and board, no heating bills to pay for we could justify paying them 50p and hour and blow the opposition out of the water in such places as Indonesia, Philippines etc.
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