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| Quote Dally="Dally"Another benefit of a ban would be the clsure of seedy dvd shops. Would also free up bandwidth on the internet to allow serious users to work more efficiently.'"
and what about the mainstream type of sex shop? you know the one that sells more than dvds, that aren't "seedy"?
and if freeing up bandwidth to "allow serious users to work more efficiently" allows you more time to troll on forums like this, then i think there should be more porn on the net!!
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"Lots of couples watch pornography together, I appreciate that. But even if both parties are happy with it then it is still damaging to the relationship. Lusting after other people can never be a good thing for our relationships.
I admit that I occasionally have a wandering eye; I daresay my wife does as well. However, what brings us together is the knowledge that such instincts are wrong and that sexual activity is mean for married couples only. This brings us back to each other, and we have a great sex life.
Another problem is when adults become too involved with pornography and begin watching videos which are illegal. I challenge anyone to justify child pornography.'"
my wife and i watch porn together, i watch porn on my own, my wife also watches porn on her own. its not damaged our relationship, and we don't lust after other people. i don't lust after those that i watch in porn films, i've never lusted after other women or slept with other women nor my wife other men. in fact we've been married for 15 years and have 2 kids.
you say that sex is for married couples only? thats your choice more than likely based on your religion, good for you you stick to those principles and i'll stick to mine!
and as for your last point, i don't think anyone in their right mind would try and justify child porn. i've been watching porn for many years and reading/looking at porn for a bit longer, i've never committed a sex crime, i've never thought about committing one. i have a healthy sex life and me AND my wife enjoy what we watch and what we part take in.
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| Quote fatboystu="fatboystu"my wife and i watch porn together, i watch porn on my own, my wife also watches porn on her own. its not damaged our relationship, and we don't lust after other people. i don't lust after those that i watch in porn films, i've never lusted after other women or slept with other women nor my wife other men. in fact we've been married for 15 years and have 2 kids.'"
If you aren't lusting after the people in the films, why do you watch it?
Quote fatboystuyou say that sex is for married couples only? thats your choice more than likely based on your religion, good for you you stick to those principles and i'll stick to mine!'"
Your principles are wrong.
Quote fatboystuand as for your last point, i don't think anyone in their right mind would try and justify child porn. i've been watching porn for many years and reading/looking at porn for a bit longer, i've never committed a sex crime, i've never thought about committing one. i have a healthy sex life and me AND my wife enjoy what we watch and what we part take in.'"
What about people who watch child porn and never do anything to hurt other people? Is that OK?
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| From porn to peadofiles in one easy jump.
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"If you aren't lusting after the people in the films, why do you watch it?'"
we watch it because we enjoy watching it. i don't lust after the actors/actresses, as to do so would mean i want to have sex with them, i don't. sometimes we watch porn to gain new ideas for our sex life, sometimes that missionary lark gets a bit tedious don't cha think?
do you and your wife watch soap operas? just because you watch eastenders doesn't mean you want to live in albert square, just because you read a recipe book for ideas doesn't mean you want to eat at another mans table.
Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"Your principles are wrong.'"
so says you. i'm happy with my life thanks.
Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"What about people who watch child porn and never do anything to hurt other people? Is that OK?'"
no its not ok. child porn is illegal. engaging in sexual activity with anybody under the age of consent is wrong and illegal. as for people who watch child porn but never hurt other people, these people are, if they were nothing else, an enabler. without them there would be no child porn "industry". so tell me again that they aren't doing anything to hurt other people.
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| Quote fatboystu="fatboystu"we watch it because we enjoy watching it. i don't lust after the actors/actresses, as to do so would mean i want to have sex with them, i don't. sometimes we watch porn to gain new ideas for our sex life, sometimes that missionary lark gets a bit tedious don't cha think?'"
What do you get from a film that you can't get from a book, or mere experimentation?
Quote fatboystudo you and your wife watch soap operas? just because you watch eastenders doesn't mean you want to live in albert square, just because you read a recipe book for ideas doesn't mean you want to eat at another mans table.'"
We don't watch any soap operas, and even if we did, I would pass it off as some kind of research.
Quote fatboystuno its not ok. child porn is illegal. engaging in sexual activity with anybody under the age of consent is wrong and illegal. as for people who watch child porn but never hurt other people, these people are, if they were nothing else, an enabler. without them there would be no child porn "industry". so tell me again that they aren't doing anything to hurt other people.'"
OK so would you oppose someone viewing only existing child pornography? Y'know, they wouldn't encourage any more being made but they have enough to stop them abusing children.
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"What do you get from a film that you can't get from a book, or mere experimentation?'"
if you'd bothered to read my earlier post you would have seen that i said i've been reading porn longer than i've been watching it.
Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"We don't watch any soap operas, and even if we did, I would pass it off as some kind of research.'"
why would you "pass it off as some kind of research"? do you need to make excuses for everything you do in life?
Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"OK so would you oppose someone viewing only existing child pornography? Y'know, they wouldn't encourage any more being made but they have enough to stop them abusing children.'"
this seems to be something of an obsession for you, and to be frank it worries me somewhat. in answer to your question however (and at risk of repetition) i oppose any type of child porn. it is illegal, sexual activity with anyone under the age of consent is illegal. so, even if no more was made, by owning or viewing child porn you are breaking the law. on a personal level, the thought of child porn disgusts me, as it should any normal person.
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"Just my personal experience.
In the States we had guys coming to our chapel seeking help on an almost weekly basis.'" That will be a no and you made it up then.
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"Dally's trolling is becoming more and more obvious.'" You can't say that.
He will next ask you what you mean by it and then when another poster explains it he will get all upset and sqweam and sqweam until he makes himself sick again.
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"Lots of couples watch pornography together, I appreciate that. But even if both parties are happy with it then it is still damaging to the relationship. Lusting after other people can never be a good thing for our relationships.
I admit that I occasionally have a wandering eye; I daresay my wife does as well. However, what brings us together is the knowledge that such instincts are wrong and that sexual activity is mean for married couples only. This brings us back to each other, and we have a great sex life.'"
So much of this is rubbish that I won't waste my time with it.
Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"Another problem is when adults become too involved with pornography and begin watching videos which are illegal. I challenge anyone to justify child pornography.'" Just so you understand Child pornography is already illegal so why or how would anyone justify it? I only state this as you seemed to have missed them memo about it.........Oh no wait you already knew this as you mentioned.
So to clarify you are seeming to say that we should make normal pornography illegal because of child pornography which is already illegal. What an incredibly strange statement to make. 
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