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Quote: kirkstaller " ... the human race is a wicked, vengeful, self-righteous race of people. ...'"

Quote: kirkstaller "... We are made in the image of God.'"


... and we are supposed to venerate this deity who is wicked, vengeful and self-righteous?
I'll pass on that, thanks.

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Quote: kirkstaller "www.christian.org.uk/news/bbc-uses-easter-show-about-crucifixion-to-push-gay-agenda/

***Please can we avoid the usual mud-slinging?***

As John Piper rightly argues, the kangaroo court and subsequent murder of Jesus was the greatest act of evil to ever occur on this planet. What the BBC and their pink partners fail to grasp is that, to Christians, it is sheer blasphemy to compare this heinous crime to anything, not least the way gay people are treated in a liberal democracy. '"


Well we haven't heard the program yet and all that article says is thisI know most of you will not agree with me, but after Leveson, Saville and now this, is it finally time to bin the BBC? If not, can it be morally justified for Christian license-payers to refuse to pay up?'"


If you want to get on an organisations case it should be the The Christian Institute's because that deliberate misrepresentation does your views no favours. It is publishing rubbish like that which brings ridicule on the likes of yourself when you use is as evidence the BBC is being blasphemous just as Dally quoting the Daily Mail as a reference does on him!

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Quote: kirkstaller "EDIT'"

You should have phrased your opening post a little differently then it wouldn't have opened you up to dispute and argument about what you said there.

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Quote: kirkstaller "
As John Piper rightly argues, the kangaroo court and subsequent murder of Jesus was the greatest act of evil to ever occur on this planet. '"


What an utterly ludicrous proposition!

1. Jesus' dad sent him here to suffer precisely this pre-ordained fate. None of the players had a choice, the script was written by your god.

2. I could list a hundred far worse acts of evil within a minute, without even thinking about it.
The Holocaust?
The Great Chines famine? (45 MILLION est. dead)
The My Lai massacre?
Dunblane?
Gassing of the Kurds?
The Somme?
The 1099 siege of Jerusalem, where 70,000 inhabitants were all massacred in the name of Christ?

Quote: kirkstaller "What the BBC and their pink partners fail to grasp is that, to Christians, it is sheer blasphemy to compare this heinous crime to anything, '"

Er, basically was he not sentenced to death under the law of that particular land? Along with others?

Quote: kirkstaller "If not, can it be morally justified for Christian license-payers to refuse to pay up?'"

Ludicrous. There is loads of stuff on the BBC that I don't agree with or am against. The answer is - don't watch it. Anyway the licence fee is for having TV receiving equipment. It is not pay per view, you'd have to pay even if you never switched your telly on.

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Here's a rap song that rlour own, in-house fundamentalist would just lurve.rl

Although I'd add – consider what her upbringing must have been like: abuseive, as Richard Dawkins would suggest.

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Actually, I'm going to lock this.

I'm not going to lock it because I have any desire to censor.

I'm going to lock it because Kirkstaller is a coward who poses deliberately inflammatory, bigoted posts and then runs away when it suits him and when he doesn't like the responses. Not one of our other trolls does this in the same way.

Kirkstaller doesn't set the rules here, although (as the OP shows) he tries. So if he wants to debate – that's fine. But he doesn't set the rules of debate either.

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20:00
Leeds-Catalans
Sat 24th Aug
SL
15:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
SL
14:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Sun 25th Aug
SL
15:00
LondonB-Leigh
SL
15:00
Wigan-Hull FC
Fri 30th Aug
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Warrington
Tue 6th Aug
SL 2 Wigan28-6Leigh
Sun 4th Aug
SL 20 LondonB12-10Catalans
WSL2024 10 FeatherstoneW6-68LeedsW
WSL2024 10 BarrowW6-64St.HelensW
WSL2024 10 Wire W0-61York V
WSL2024 10 WiganW70-0Hudds W
L1 18 Keighley72-12Newcastle
L1 18 Oldham32-0Midlands
L1 18 Rochdale46-32Cornwall
L1 18 Workington24-28Crusaders
CH 20 Barrow24-24Bradford
CH 20 Dewsbury16-42Wakefield
CH 20 Featherstone24-16Batley
CH 20 Halifax38-18York
CH 20 Sheffield22-20Doncaster
CH 20 Whitehaven12-24Widnes
NRL 22 Penrith22-14Newcastle
NRL 22 Canterbury22-18Canberra
Sat 3rd Aug
SL 20 Hull FC6-46St.Helens
SL 20 Salford22-16Leeds
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
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Wigan 20 523 264 259 32
Hull KR 20 503 259 244 30
Warrington 20 502 267 235 28
Salford 20 377 382 -5 26
St.Helens 20 501 262 239 24
Catalans 20 376 286 90 24
 
Leeds 20 371 364 7 20
Leigh 20 398 314 84 19
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 20 336 523 -187 13
Hull FC 20 274 612 -338 6
LondonB 20 210 735 -525 4
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 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 18 626 222 404 34
Sheffield 18 510 303 207 26
Toulouse 17 516 224 292 25
Widnes 18 434 319 115 23
Bradford 18 421 321 100 22
Featherstone 18 464 375 89 18
 
Doncaster 18 338 432 -94 17
York 19 446 383 63 16
Batley 18 300 390 -90 16
Halifax 18 356 477 -121 14
Barrow 17 279 482 -203 13
Swinton 18 346 470 -124 12
Whitehaven 18 348 580 -232 12
Dewsbury 19 240 602 -362 2
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