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Has an ex Coal Miner from Doncaster and naturally a Labour supporter I must admit our local MPs Milliband, Flint and Winterton are non existent on policies when this lot in power are in the mire. Only one guy seems to beat the drum and that is John Mann who took the expenses scandal forward and exposes every mistake this lot do in power, Credit rating taken away and the country in collapse ., come on Milliband or move on.

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Quote: dr_feelgood "I would argue that the removal of free HE was started when the Tories decided to get rid of maintenance grants in the late 80s.'"


I'd put it earlier, when they started cutting grants for 'vocational' courses earlier that decade.

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I see that Call Me Dave has been caught out lying through his teeth during his speech on the economy yesterday:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21714549
I see that Call Me Dave has been caught out lying through his teeth during his speech on the economy yesterday:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21714549


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Quote: Kosh "I see that Call Me Dave has been caught out lying ...'"


Again?

He's not even a competent liar.

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Quote: Kosh "I see that Call Me Dave has been caught out lying through his teeth during his speech on the economy yesterdayHe said the OBR had made it clear that growth had been depressed by the legacy of the 2008 financial crisis, instability in the eurozone and a sharp rise in oil prices between 2010 and 2011.

The watchdog, he added, was "absolutely clear that the deficit reduction plan is not responsible, in fact, quite the opposite".[/i

To this response from the OBR - a direct contradiction

[i"To summarise, we believe that fiscal consolidation measures have reduced economic growth over the past couple of years."[/i

To hereA Downing Street spokesman said the OBR had pinpointed "external inflation shocks, the eurozone and financial sector difficulties as the reasons why their forecasts have come in lower than expected".

"That is precisely the point the prime minister was underlining," he added. [/i

No he wasn't! While the OBR acknowledges several factors besides austerity measures have contributed to the state of the economy they are quite categorical that deficit reduction was a factor and Cameron was saying they said the exact opposite. That was his point.

So not only do we have Cameron telling porkies we have "A Downing Street spokesman" doing the same.

Who are these "Downing Street spokesmen" anyway? Civil servants? If so they ought not be defending government policy. That is up to the government not them. If they are civel servants then they have been politicised.

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Never mind a triple A rating. I went to the bank for a loan. The manager didn't speak, he just laughed and gave me a double V rating.
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