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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"There is absolutely no difference between the argument in support of gay marriage and that which would push for marriage between brothers. Absolutely none.'"
Have you not noticed the point that has been mentioned previously regarding birth defects in incestuous relationships, now this may not apply a same sex (or one in which one partner was infertile) incestuous relationship however it still applies to other incestuous relationships and explains why incest is illegal as it would be discriminatory to allow one type of incestuous relationship but not others.
The major difference between the two is that homosexuality is a sexual orientation. Somebody who is gay is exclusively attracted to members of the same sex, therefore without being dishonest to themselves and their partner marriage at is not an option at present. As far as I'm aware there is nobody who is exclusive attracted to their own siblings, nobody is being denied equal rights by virtue of not being allowed to marry their sibling. This is why the comparison between same sex marriage and marriage between siblings is such a terrible one.
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| You are right of course, anyone can marry anything, I could marry a rock in my garden or one of my fish from the pond, its a totally meaningless ceremony invented by various religions in order to give some credence to their teachings and a warm feeling of false security to their followers, a bit like Tesco Club Points for the religious - "If you're good Christians then The God will allow you to marry, and those gays won't be able to get at you any more".
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| Quote Gareth1984="Gareth1984"
nobody is being denied equal rights by virtue of not being allowed to marry their sibling. This is why the comparison between same sex marriage and marriage between siblings is such a terrible one.'"
As I said at the top - it's all about grabbing perceived "rights." The whole gay marriage thing is pointless, nonsensical and hypocritical.
The siblings comparison is not terrible it a good one as it highlights what it wrong with the concept of gay marriage.
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| Quote Gareth1984="Gareth1984"Have you not noticed the point that has been mentioned previously regarding birth defects in incestuous relationships, now this may not apply a same sex (or one in which one partner was infertile) incestuous relationship however it still applies to other incestuous relationships and explains why incest is illegal as it would be discriminatory to allow one type of incestuous relationship but not others.
The major difference between the two is that homosexuality is a sexual orientation. Somebody who is gay is exclusively attracted to members of the same sex, therefore without being dishonest to themselves and their partner marriage at is not an option at present. As far as I'm aware there is nobody who is exclusive attracted to their own siblings, nobody is being denied equal rights by virtue of not being allowed to marry their sibling. This is why the comparison between same sex marriage and marriage between siblings is such a terrible one.'"
So if a gay man was in love with his brother, would you support their case to get married? Would you support provision being made for such couples in the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill? Admittedly we are only talking about a small number of cases, but hey, equality is equality.
The same gays you are lobbying for may want the state to recognise their love for their sibling.
Can you give me one reason why a gay man should not be allowed to marry his gay brother?
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"
Can you give me one reason why a gay man should not be allowed to marry his gay brother?'"
If we cast aside the legality issue then there is none at all - when is your church going to offer this product and can I book me and our kid in ?
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"You are right of course, anyone can marry anything, I could marry a rock in my garden or one of my fish from the pond, its a totally meaningless ceremony invented by various religions in order to give some credence to their teachings and a warm feeling of false security to their followers, a bit like Tesco Club Points for the religious - "If you're good Christians then The God will allow you to marry, and those gays won't be able to get at you any more".'"
So only Christans marry now do they? You mind is very confused.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"As I said at the top - it's all about grabbing perceived "rights." '"
No its not about perceived rights, it's about an actual right which gay people do not currently have, a right which does not impinge upon the freedoms of others.
Quote DallyThe whole gay marriage thing is pointless, nonsensical and hypocritical. '"
Would you care to explain why same sex marriage is those things rather than asserting them as fact?
Quote DallyThe siblings comparison is not terrible it a good one as it highlights what it wrong with the concept of gay marriage.'"
It does nothing of the sort. It merely serves to highlight the desperation of the anti gay marriage brigade when they make such a comparison (as does comparing gay marriage to bestiality) and demonstrates that they are lacking in any kind of rational argument against same sex marriage.
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"If we cast aside the legality issue then there is none at all - when is your church going to offer this product and can I book me and our kid in ?'"
I appreciate your honesty.
Of course I don't subscribe to the idea myself, I was simply demonstrating the slippery slope we have embarked upon, and also highlighting the hypocrisy of gay marriage supporters.
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| Quote Gareth1984="Gareth1984"No its not about perceived rights, it's about an actual right which gay people do not currently have, a right which does not impinge upon the freedoms of others.
Would you care to explain why same sex marriage is those things rather than asserting them as fact?
It does nothing of the sort. It merely serves to highlight the desperation of the anti gay marriage brigade when they make such a comparison (as does comparing gay marriage to bestiality) and demonstrates that they are lacking in any kind of rational argument against same sex marriage.'"
We must beg to differ for reasons that have been highlighted above. Are you for or against same sex marriage between siblings? That would give them the same rights as other loving couples and would not impinge on others' freedoms. The only reason heterosexual marriage betwen siblings is taboo is due to the risk of abnormality in offspring and so the argument that same sex siblings have equal rights is spurious - they do not have the same right as non-sibling homosexuals (assuming the draft legislation still discriminates against siblings).
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"So if a gay man was in love with his brother, would you support their case to get married? Would you support provision being made for such couples in the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill? Admittedly we are only talking about a small number of cases, but hey, equality is equality.
The same gays you are lobbying for may want the state to recognise their love for their sibling.
Can you give me one reason why a gay man should not be allowed to marry his gay brother?'"
My opinion relating to incestuous couples in completely irrelevant here I am making no judgement regarding incestuous relationships. I am merely explaining why the comparison between gay marriage and marriage between siblings is completely asinine. My opinion is that incest is a very complex subject but that it is of complete irrelevance to the issue of whether same sex marriage should be legal.
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| Quote Gareth1984="Gareth1984"My opinion relating to incestuous couples in completely irrelevant here I am making no judgement regarding incestuous relationships. I am merely explaining why the comparison between gay marriage and marriage between siblings is completely asinine. My opinion is that incest is a very complex subject but that it is of complete irrelevance to the issue of whether same sex marriage should be legal.'"
Comparisons aside, what is your view on same-sex relationships between siblings?
Give me an answer. Because at the minute it just looks like you're ducking out of a very difficult question.
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