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"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." Thomas Jefferson "For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring" Carl Sagan:11327.jpg



Quote: kirkstaller "There is no evidence that we evolved from animals. If there is, I'd love for you to show me it.'"


I don't have time to provide a list of peer reviewed scientific papers however the following link compiles some of the evidence which supports evolutionary theory. The article is supported by peer reviewed scientific papers



This inane comment does nothing other than demonstrate a lack of maturity on your part.

Quote: kirkstaller "How can we be apes when apes are animals? '"


This is like asking how can someone who is English be a Brit when Brits are Europeans. I cannot believe anybody could be ask such a dumb question, although given your previous comment regarding humans not being apes because we are humans nothing you say surprises me any more. Do you actually think about what you post before you actually type?

Creationists who ask why if we "evolved from monkeys" there are still monkeys around sound like intellectuals in comparison to what you have written.

Quote: kirkstaller "My 3 year old son knows what animals are. You obviously don't.'"


Given that you somehow think that humans do not belong to the kingdom of Animalia I suggest that I have a much better grasp of what constitutes an animal than you do. I hope you do not pass down such ignorance to your son.

Quote: kirkstaller "My 3 year old just laughed when I told him a fully grown human didn't know the difference between people and animals.'"


I'd assume he laughed because he realised that even at three years of age he is already more intelligent than his dad. The difference between people and animals is about the same as the difference between Bradfordians and Europeans

Quote: kirkstaller "Seriously, I see where you're coming from in that we have similar genetics. However, whilst it may appear that we are part of the same family, where you incorrectly see 'evolution', I see God's fingerprints. Tell me, if you were molding a batch of figurines from the same clay, there would be similarities between the physical properties of each one, wouldn't there? If you were painting many different styles of pictures,they'd all have the same signature, wouldn't they?'"


There is far more to genetics than just similarity amongst species. Creationists may be able to argue away genetic similarities with "same genes, same designer" however there is far more to the genetic evidence than mere similarities.

The link I provided provides examples of exactly where creationism is unable provide a sufficient explanation for genetic similarities. Engenous retroviral insertion is one of the clearest examples which cannot be explained by creationists.



No it doesn't if humans and other animals shared for instance a different genetic code then this would not refute creationism however had such an observation occurred then evolution would be falsified. #similarities do not in anyway mean we have the same creator as they are not a prediction of creationism, they are however a prediction of evolutionary theory and such observations could have falsified evolution had they been different.

Quote: kirkstaller "Christian scientists did, yes.'"


Which is completely irrelevant to the point I made. However it was Christian doctrine which was used as justification for the sun orbiting the earth.

Quote: kirkstaller "Scientists have demonstrated no such thing.'"


Yes they have. Simply pretending the evidence that shows that you creation myth is just that a myth and that evolution provides the best explanation of the biological data does not exist will make it go away.

Quote: kirkstaller "Care to tell me how creationism fails to explain each of the above?'"


I don't have time to go into full detail, however creationism cannot explain the genetic similarities amongst living organisms as the above link shows. Creationism also cannot explain the existence of transitional fossils hence why creationists deny the existence of transitional fossils despite the fact there are numerous examples of such fossils

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I seem to remember Tori Amos performing Cornflake Girl wearing less than the traditional quota of underwear. Is this relevant?

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "I seem to remember Tori Amos performing Cornflake Girl wearing less than the traditional quota of underwear. Is this relevant?'"


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You've got me thinking of a scantily clad Rebekah Brookes. eusa_naughty.gif

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'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world' Yves Le Prieur, the real inventor of the aqualung:



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You've got me thinking of a scantily clad Rebekah Brookes.
I can't wait to see her in a prison uniform

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