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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"Why the DRO was brought in doesn't matter '"
What rubbish. Of course it matters.
Of course, it doesn't matter to you, because that's what you want to happen across the board.
Those in the real world can point the the other, successful, franchises.
Did you find those figures, by the way?
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| Quote ROBINSON="ROBINSON"What rubbish. Of course it matters.
Of course, it doesn't matter to you, because that's what you want to happen across the board.
Those in the real world can point the the other, successful, franchises.
Did you find those figures, by the way?'"
tut tut, you should know better, profit is BAD, socialism is GREAT, that is the Sin Bin mantra
the fact none of them can earn over 40K a year tells you everything you need to know.
(edit:adjusted for London weighting)
POJ/E as always.
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| Quote ROBINSON="ROBINSON"DRO took over East Coast because the franchisee went bust, after taking over from Virgin, who ran it well and produced good figures.'"
Virgin did not run East Coast.
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| Quote ROBINSON="ROBINSON":31tbqkwuWhat rubbish. Of course it matters. '" :31tbqkwu
Of course, it doesn't matter to you, because that's what you want to happen across the board.
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It doesn't matter because it's not relevant.
What matters is how much it costs the tax payer to have DRO running a line compared to Virgin or anyone else running it.
Now go on, explain to everyone why the reason DRO ended up running the east coast has got anything to do with those two costs.
Quote ROBINSON:31tbqkwuThose in the real world can point the the other, successful, franchises. '" :31tbqkwu
Define a successful [u:31tbqkwurail[/u
In the articular you dismissed as biased because you were unable to offer anything to argue against it.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"
Define a successful [urail[/u franchise which is what we are talking about here. One that is a license to print money for the franchisee as Branson characterised rail franchises as, or one that delivers value for money to the tax payer?'"
Those two definitions are not mutually exclusive.
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| Quote Big Graeme="Big Graeme"Virgin did not run East Coast.'"
Apologies, I'm getting missed up with Cross Country. I did of course, mean National Express.
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| Quote ROBINSON="ROBINSON"Apologies, I'm getting missed up with Cross Country. I did of course, mean National Express.'"
And GNER before that.
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| Quote Big Graeme="Big Graeme"Those two definitions are not mutually exclusive.'"
Again you have to define "success". For me success means providing a service to agreed levels that costs the tax payer the least. The debate is can a private company like Virgin ever do that?
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"Again you have to define "success". For me success means providing a service to agreed levels that costs the tax payer the least. The debate is can a private company like Virgin ever do that?'"
Does the above have to come at the expense of customer satisfaction?
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| Here's something that I have never understood about train travel, and certainly the inter-city train travels rather than the cattle truck local systems - why do they over-sell certain services ?
I've just this morning received a promotional email from Cross Country Trains advising me how to make sure that I get a seat on my next journey, which made me stop and read it twice - why shouldn't I expect to have a seat for my next journey ?
Can you imagine presenting a marvellous new invention called "railway" to the patent office or to a government health and safety committee in order to obtain permission to build thousands of miles of track for your new public transport system, and at the point where they ask you how many seats will be in each carriage you reply "70" and they write that number down and then you say "plus approximately another forty or fifty standing", thats the point when they'd put their pens down and ask you "and how fast did you say these trains of yours will be travelling ?"
You simply wouldn't get permisssion to run a railway if you had to apply for planning permission today.
Surely a scheduled service, like the once-per-hour five carriage train that runs down the length of the country from Aberdeen to Plymouth every day, should have the capability to monitor its capacity between its ten or twelve various sectors and when that capacity is full then refuse to book any more tickets and recommend that you choose a different time ?
You know, like airlines do ?
Virgin for instance ?
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"Here's something that I have never understood about train travel, and certainly the inter-city train travels rather than the cattle truck local systems - why do they over-sell certain services ?
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They don't, it is usually customers piling on to a train they haven't book on, imagine the uproar if the rail companies insisted on every customer booking a seat for every journey,
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