I have a thing or two to add to this conversation .
I would like to say that Kirkstaller ain't a bad bloke if you take the time to have a chat instead of just slating him for his views on religion .

Whatever your opinions on the subject it has affected all of us in a big way .

Apart from christenings , weddings , and funerals , think how much of the music you listen to by great performers would never have reached your ears if it hadn't been for the singers being discovered in church/gospel choirs ? I'm guessing quite a lot of it . Just take a look at the number of Afro-American female ledgends .
The likes of Jones , Westenra , and Jenkins came from choirs . Any Saints fans having a dig at religion should pause and have a think about the roots of their club song .
Can you see where I am going with this bit ? Think that is enough on that subject for now .

Back on topic . If you are able to make a decision on wether you want to end your life then it should be allowed . Counselling and assistance should be given . It would allow people to reach the end of their life with some dignity , and allow family and friends to say a final farewell whilst their loved one is still breathing .
As far as I am aware a doctor can choose DNR . Doctors and family are allowed to switch off life-support . What is so different , or wrong about the patient making the choice ?


By the way . How many of you will be singing Abide With Me at Wembley on Saturday ? I know I will be doing so if I get there .

Surely not even the great lord can do that?

I think he's more into spirits...

I think that is two things we have agree on since I joined the forum !!

I have never met kirkstaller so plainly can't "have a problem" with him.

I only replied to his posts, until they became too bat loony to be worth expending any further neuron activity upon.

I am puzzled by your question. Assuming it is a genuine question, I don't "have a problem" with "believers". My parents, for example, were both firm believers, (though as Catholics, obviously beneath kirkstaller's contempt) and I can assure you I had nor have no problem with them. or indeed with 99.9% of any other believers I've ever come across.

The claim to have personally met Jesus Christ is a worrying delusion which perhaps explains a lot about why he posts some of what he does, but is plainly barking. I don't "have a problem" with it, it's self-evidently ridiculous and no further view upon it is required.