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My experience of the past three years is that their system are still very reliant on paperwork and humans too - and that the paperwork shuffling sometimes fails them.

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Quote: Bulls 4 Me "When I tried to trace a payment I was told don't know if it has been done or when it will be done if ever. Rock on Natwest the helpful bank.'"


TBH I don't reckon there's much to choose. I was with Yorkshire all my life until 2010. They really let me down (won't go into details) but suffice it to say we wrote twice to them to complain and were ignored. We only go a response when we switched banks.
Their current TV ad campaign is laughable but not funny.

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Quote: littlerich "I can't believe their systems are 30 years old? That's 1982. That's when a PC was the stuff of a madmans dream
Yes. I work on the stuff (not the RBS/Nat West system I hasten to add).

Most of it just works and works very well. Replacing it is not cheap and risky.

The UK's Faster Payments System is based on software first developed over 30 years ago. So is the Link ATM netork that lets you draw cash out of any banks ATM. Now granted it has been updated over the years but it is still written in the same and very obscure computer language. Not many people know it so it keeps me in a job!

They recently updated the actual computers to HP Blade servers for FPS and they run the software like the proverbial off a shovel.

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Quote: SBR "Software that old generally requires old hardware to run on (at least spec. wise). The company I work for was recently involved in writing a replacement for just such an old (and business critical) system a client had. The main driver was that it was becoming increasingly difficult to source replacement hardware to run the old code on.'"


Not if its a Tandem (as was) now HP NonStop server type of machine. You can run software decades old on that which was written when they were 16 bit machines classed as mini-computers. Most banks rely on these machines and the software. Lloyds, Barclays's, Nat West, HSBC, ING and various others all have big investments in this little known hardware.

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Quote: Dally "Let's hope it is just the IT system and not a liquidity crisis being hidden behind an IT excuse. Could be a problem this week - big backlog of payments to process, annoyed customers taking money out and month end payments. That alone could stretch liquidity. Interesting that HMG / BoE have been panicking of late about liquidity in the banking system and just last week announced the £100 billion. Are the two connected? if RBS is bust then so is Britain.'"


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Having spoken with their IT guys all last week (until they introduced Business Incident Managers to fend the calls) I'd say that if that was the case then no one told them!

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Quote: ryano "icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:
They wouldn't know - otherwise the banking system would collapse. Doesn't mean it's not a distinct possibility though - indeed arguably a probability now newspapers are starting to suggest people and companies are moving their accounts out of RBS' banks.

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