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| Got to keep up bud there is 800k of jobs that gives us 2 mill left, dont let anyone in for a year and let people who want to leave the country go where the hell they like booooooooooom we have sorted in a year !!
Now to keep my Scottish friends with us like one big happy family next thread .............
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| Quote Coach="Coach"Got to keep up bud there is 800k of jobs that gives us 2 mill left'"
The 500k figure was provided by our pie munching friend.
Now I know you and your friend don't like answering this question but what do you do to encourage the workshy to get a job when even those desperate for work and find it?
Quote Coach="Coach"Now to keep my Scottish friends with us like one big happy family next thread .............'"
Our friends who live in Scotland (and that is who will get a vote) are big enough to decide for themselves.
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EllipsisOh and please read up on what the three (and it is three not a load) of dots mean punctuation wise.[/url
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| Quote Coach="Coach"I doubt any of us are struggling or we wouldn't have the internet, however the difference is what should we do about the mickey takers [uyou and coddy want to give them the world[/u i want want them to work for a living.'"
Please point to where I have said anything of the kind.
I have no problem with targeting benefits cheats. I do have a serious problem with broad-brush, simple-fix "solutions" that do nothing to address a problem, yet seem to appease the narrow minded by lumping the majority good in with the tiny minority bad.
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| Quote Coach="Coach"Got to keep up bud there is 800k of jobs that gives us 2 mill left, dont let anyone in for a year and let people who want to leave the country go where the hell they like booooooooooom we have sorted in a year !!
Now to keep my Scottish friends with us like one big happy family next thread .............'"
What an intelligent reply.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"Quote cod'ead="Coach"I doubt any of us are struggling or we wouldn't have the internet, however the difference is what should we do about the mickey takers [uyou and coddy want to give them the world[/u i want want them to work for a living.'"
Please point to where I have said anything of the kind.
I have no problem with targeting benefits cheats. I do have a serious problem with broad-brush, simple-fix "solutions" that do nothing to address a problem, yet seem to appease the narrow minded by lumping the majority good in with the tiny minority bad.'"
Not to mention the fact that our government is happy to target the poorest and most vulnerable in society in order to score a few cheap points with Daily Mail readers, yet somehow rather less comfortable in tackling the issue of big business dodging billions of pounds worth of tax.
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| Quote Big Graeme="Big Graeme"See I'd like them to work for a living too (as I'm sure many of the families in that situation would) but we have a slight problem of 2.18m more people out of work than we do vacancies, even those desperate to get a job can't get one.'"
You really don't get this economics thing do you BG?
If it were so easy to wave a magic wand, create jobs then EVERYONE would be doing it.
What you need to do is create the CONDITIONS to allow people to create jobs.
Remove bureaucracy, ensure inflation is low, ensure taxes are low, reward enterprise, penalise laziness.
i.e. entirely the OPPOSITE of what Labour did.
The current coalition is trying to get back to this by sorting out the mess that they inherited.
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| Quote Big Graeme="Big Graeme"And of course we have jobs for them to go into once we've slashed benefits? at the last count there was 500k vacancies (your figure) and 2.68m out of work.'"
Even if there are no jobs, I don't see 2.68 million people volunteering to help people less fortunate than themselves via charities, in hospitals, etc in exchange for their assistance. Surely, that would be the decent thing to do?
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"Not to mention the fact that our government is happy to target the poorest and most vulnerable in society in order to score a few cheap points with Daily Mail readers, yet somehow rather less comfortable in tackling the issue of big business dodging billions of pounds worth of tax.'"
One they have absolute power and influence over, the other little.
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X" yet somehow rather less comfortable in tackling the issue of big business dodging billions of pounds worth of tax.'"
Not just big business, has Gideon brought his trust fund back to the UK yet?
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| Quote Coach="Coach"no if we let people go as well then we have cracked it...'"
You're still happy for other countries to take migrants from the UK?
So, double standards, then.
Quote Coach="Coach"Hey that GOLD went cheap didn't it !!!!!'"
Ah, just think of all the revenues from North Sea gas that went to fund the scrapping of industry and the throwing of people and communities onto the scrapheap – and with that, the concomitant creation of welfare dependency.
What an investment that was.
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| Quote XBrettKennyX="XBrettKennyX"You really don't get this economics thing do you BG?
If it were so easy to wave a magic wand, create jobs then EVERYONE would be doing it.
What you need to do is create the CONDITIONS to allow people to create jobs.
Remove bureaucracy, ensure inflation is low, ensure taxes are low, reward enterprise, penalise laziness.
i.e. entirely the OPPOSITE of what Labour did.
The current coalition is trying to get back to this by sorting out the mess that they inherited.'"
I don't think you could be more wrong if you tried.
You post is just wrong from start to finish. You are simply restating Thatcherism with the remove bureaucracy, low tax, reward enterprise mantra. This country has been run like that since Thatcher by both Conservative AND Labour governments. The result? A banking crisis like we have never seen before and the mess we are in now. That is not a coincidence.
The coalition is printing money like it is going out of fashion (bang goes low inflation), the economy is contracting, unemployment is increasing, we are borrowing more and yet despite almost begging the banks (some of which are govt owned) to lend they are not lending to businesses.
This government does not have a strategy for growth. We have had deregulation all over the place since the 80's as well as privatisations of rail and utilities etc. The right wing thinkers have had their "conditions for growth for decades" and all it has done is get us where we are today. In a mess.
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