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| I realise the topic has moved on somewhat, but imo the crux of the issue isn't actually the midwifery staff - it's that cutbacks all over the shop means that women having terminations at the GG&C hospitals are being cared for in the maternity unit. If they didn't operate on the very minimum amount of staff then the midwifery staff wouldn't be asked to help out. If they didn't put women who'd had terminations (and miscarriages) onto normal maternity wards post operation because they've cut the other beds then not only would the staff not be making their current point, but the women involved might be treated better* as well.
*By better I mean they wouldn't be subject to something that I think is horrendous (putting them on a normal maternity ward) rather than their actual nursing care.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"When I was a kid I spent years praying for a new bike without my prayers being answered. So I went and nicked a bike and prayed for forgiveness, that worked'"
I'm using this as my signature !
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| Quote vbfg="vbfg"I think there are tremendous benefits to meditation,'"
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| I just thought I'd mention Nadine Dorries.
[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2012/jan/20/nadine-dorries-sexual-abstinence-bill-withdrawnHer bill on abstinence education – for girls only – has been withdrawn.[/url
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"I just thought I'd mention Nadine Dorries.
[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2012/jan/20/nadine-dorries-sexual-abstinence-bill-withdrawnHer bill on abstinence education – for girls only – has been withdrawn.[/url
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From Andrew Copson
Quote Mintball"It would be nice to think that Mrs Dorries withdrew her bill because she at last realised that abstinence 'education' is a dangerously unrealistic and irresponsible proposition for our young people. In the more probable eventuality that her decision was guided by politics rather than a change of heart, we will all certainly need to remain on our guard against such foolish proposals in the future," he said.
"The fact that the bill ever got tabled for a second reading at all has given all those who care about good quality, comprehensive sex and relationships education the chance to say so, and take a stand against the sort of unevidenced ideologically motivated policy making that the bill represented."'"
The BHA have been doing some sterling work of late. They also had a hand in the decision to ban the teaching of creationism in our schools.
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"I just thought I'd mention Nadine Dorries.
[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2012/jan/20/nadine-dorries-sexual-abstinence-bill-withdrawnHer bill on abstinence education – for girls only – has been withdrawn.[/url
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But surely if Dorries's bill became law and more teenage girls abstained, that would only lead to an increase in male homosexual behaviour?
They want to make thier minds up, these tories, do they want more slappers or more irons?
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| Mad Nad has had a change of heart, apparently:
[url=http://newsthump.com/2012/04/24/nadine-dorries-highlights-david-cameron-and-george-osborne-as-a-compelling-case-for-abortion/Nadine Dorries highlights David Cameron and George Osborne as a compelling case for abortion[/url
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Mad Nad has had a change of heart, apparently:
[url=http://newsthump.com/2012/04/24/nadine-dorries-highlights-david-cameron-and-george-osborne-as-a-compelling-case-for-abortion/Nadine Dorries highlights David Cameron and George Osborne as a compelling case for abortion[/url'"

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| Quote peggy="peggy"I have made it a little larger for you, not sure if you under stood the first or second time perhaps third time lucky. People do irrational things out of desperation, confusion and fear.
I also said
The prospect of death made me desperate and confused. I could have told him to Ferk off but what was the point=#FF0000 "what harm can it do"?
=#0000FFFor all we know (and we don't) there may be a God of Heaven and Earth just as much as there is a God of Rock?'"
Amazingly a church funded study in the power of pray did show how it could harm.
What it found was that patients who were terminally ill showed no signs of improvement while being knowingly prayed for, but when told the praying had stopped they declined at a faster rate due to stress.
=#4000FFThis part is the typical drivel served out to justify "god".
Where all scared of dying, some just have the sense to deal with it.
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| I can't change how I felt at the time, as I said there was desperation and confusion. I would defy anybody to tell me they would not feel the same emotions when faced with death leaving your wife to cope.
Nowhere in any of my posts on this topic have I tried to justify God.
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Where all scared of dying, some just have the sense to deal with it.'"
Sadly not the sense to construct a grammatically correct sentence.
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| Quote peggy="peggy"I can't change how I felt at the time, as I said there was desperation and confusion. =#FF0000I would defy anybody to tell me they would not feel the same emotions when faced with death leaving your wife to cope.
Nowhere in any of my posts on this topic have I tried to justify God.
Sadly not the sense to construct a grammatically correct sentence.'"
Emotions no, actions yes.
If you were choking would you want me to perform the Heimlich Maneuver or pray?
I've misread it then, by putting "God's work?" it looked like justification.
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