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| And in an almost comedic article, that doyen of insightful thought, Christina Patterson, suggests: [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/christina-patterson/christina-patterson-if-you-dont-like-capitalism-why-not-try-north-korea-6279781.htmlIf you don't like capitalism, try North Korea[/url
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"And in an almost comedic article, that doyen of insightful thought, Christina Patterson, suggests: [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/christina-patterson/christina-patterson-if-you-dont-like-capitalism-why-not-try-north-korea-6279781.htmlIf you don't like capitalism, try North Korea[/url'"
That really is p*ss poor. 
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"That really is p*ss poor.
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If you're ever stuck for any comedy material, it's always worth a trawl back through her previous articles. I can only assume she's nobbing Lebedev
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| Ah, I remember the days when the Indie was a half-decent paper.
Mind you, there was an article by Norman Lamont in last week's [iNew Statesman[/i.
I guess it's all in the interests of "balance".
i.e. In among items from those who can think or write or both, you slip in a an article by someone who can do neither.
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| Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"Ah, I remember the days when the Indie was a half-decent paper.
Mind you, there was an article by Norman Lamont in last week's [iNew Statesman[/i.
I guess it's all in the interests of "balance".
i.e. In among items from those who can think or write or both, you slip in a an article by someone who can do neither.'"
For the most part it still is a half-decent paper and one of the few that does still offer a range of opinions, from the likes of diverse commentators such as: Dominic Lawson, Brute Anderson, Rober Fisk etc. Quite why they allow Christina Patterson to stray from her comfort zone of poetry is totally beyond me
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"For the most part it still is a half-decent paper and one of the few that does still offer a range of opinions, from the likes of diverse commentators such as: Dominic Lawson, Brute Anderson, Rober Fisk etc. Quite why they allow Christina Patterson to stray from her comfort zone of poetry is totally beyond me'"
Was that deliberate?
Since .......
Quote cod'eadBruce Anderson has been an advocate of torture in ticking time bomb scenarios, even before the 9/11 terrorist attacks brought the question to greater public prominence. In February 2010 he wrote a column for The Independent, arguing that the British government would have not just the right, but the duty, to torture if there was a ticking bomb, and that they should torture children if they believed that doing so would yield information that would avert a terrorist attack:'" 
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| Quote Stand-Offish="Stand-Offish"Was that deliberate?
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| I now believe that this guy really was a demigod, as the BBc has passed on the following from korean media:
Even nature is mourning, the state-run Korean Central News Agency reported on Thursday. A snowstorm hit as Mr Kim died and ice on the volcanic Chon lake near his reported birthplace at Mount Paektu cracked, it said:
"so loud, it seemed to shake the Heavens and the Earth", and a mysterious glow was seen on a revered mountain top:
"Following the storm's sudden end at dawn on Tuesday, a message carved in rock - "Mount Paektu, holy mountain of revolution. Kim Jong-il" - glowed brightly, it said. It remained there until sunset."
So that must be right. Certainly has removed all my doubts. I mean, how else would that glowing message have appeared if not from the man himself? Eh? Ask yourself that.
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