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I'm posting this because I had already written it before the other thread was locked.

Quote: Coach "Thats exactly what ive tried to tell him all today for some reason he isn't able to listen.

You had fending of tags today didnt you played in the right spirit i believe no problems at all what was the final score.'"


TBH you are making it worst by the aruging, all Mark said (in slightly different words) it that will be playing the Official (hightlighted for a reason) rules as agreed with the RFL. Because there are the RFL laws, I feel its only right to play tag rugby in this way, otherwise we are not playing Tag Rugby League, but a different sport all together.

Our game today was played in the right spirts because it was no contact allowed. If hand offs (or fending of tags) are acceptable, then to avoid these the attackers have to go in with the intention of stopping the man to take the tag, causing more contact and thats when the game turns nasty, and as has been seen many times before, turns into all but tackle.

I also think that while it should be dicussed at the league meeting, its also worth while talking about it now. Afterall one of the good things about our set up (IMBRL and TML) is that we have always been open with everything, and locking threads because people disagree with different things means we might as well not have a forum.

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I locked it to stop arguing alot of effort has gone into this without someone calling me a liar.

I have also said i dont want to get in an argument but people still has to carry on and on.

Leon the rules are to suit everyone we are not arguing about it on here id rather everyone put questions together and talk about it at the meeting. Things can be taken in the wrong context on the board and id rather not have the arguments on here id rather people talk about it face to face.

If we dont have rules that suit everyone then teams will leave.

We will have a talk at the meeting till then i am not having ill feeling on the board.

I should not react to some people on here but its hard when you have put so much effort in.

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as a player and an official of the leythers mb team i am really happy with the rules that have been set and as you all know us at leigh are a physical tag said and will have to tone our game down to comply with these rules. after all it is rugby league and is the game we all love because of the physicality within the game.

if they were to put a rule in superleague about minimum contact we would all go mad and probably stop watching the game because of it so get on with it and approch every game differently.

the thing is '' if you go into a game thinking you are going to get hurt then it will always happen no matter who you are'' it is all about preperation and it is all in the mind.

well done to all who has been involved in sorting the rules out and i know how hard it is to sort things out at club level so sorting things out at league level must be even harder

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Having seen the rules approved by the RFL, and these rules that have been put together, the differences are very small, and people coming on here to argue and threaten to not sign up to the rules because they can't accept a bit of contact is petty, and immature.

Of course this is Tag rugby and we use the removal of tags to immitate a tackle, but to expect no contact in a game of rugby is expecting a bit to much.

The rules include a section about hi-vis clothing to be worn, and Mark and Leon, I'm sure you could both wear these to show you don't want any contact. That, in my opinion, is perfectly fine, but don't spit your dummies out over some rules that have been put together by the Vice-chairman of TML. I'm sure all these issues will be raised at the forthcoming meeting, and I look forward to seeing you there icon_smile.gif

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I dont see a problem with the rules personally. I've played about 75 or so games using these (or very similar rules) and there has never been a problem, aside from one incident against Rochdale, oddly enough, when someone started throwing punches. I would hope that was an isolated incident though.

I wonder how having no contact at all would work, but Id be willing to try it obviously. If you dont run directly at someone then thats fine, but what happens if the defence is tight enough for there to be no gaps? What happens if someone is running at a gap and then someone moves into the gap as the attacking player is focusing on his/her teamate who is passing them the ball, contact will be inevitable in some circumstances I think. In my opinion if some contact does happen then we should all be grown up enough not to go in a huff about it and start name calling.

In all honesty, despite all of mark2's postulating, Rochdale arent exactly the cleanest team I've played against. I dont want to stoop to a low level and begin a petty arguement but maybe you should start to practice what you preach and not use foul language whilst playing, that includes calling one of my team mates a fat f****r in the recent world club challenge tournament, despite the RFL being present.

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Quote: davet "I dont see a problem with the rules personally. I've played about 75 or so games using these (or very similar rules) and there has never been a problem, aside from one incident against Rochdale, oddly enough, when someone started throwing punches. I would hope that was an isolated incident though. '"


Maybe his insistence on having no contact is an effort to protect everyone else from his fists of fury?

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just going off what davet has just put about rochdale being not one of the cleanest teams

apart from the grand final against york rochdale was one of the games that comes to mind that matched our physical approch to the game and as most teams know that is how we play and we got no complaints last season. the only thing that could come out of this rule about contact is a big bloody list of people up before a disaplinary (if there is one) because of teams getting on the refs back about others using to much contact and putting pressure on them to make a decision to dismiss someone

im sure all will be revealed as soon as games commence and heres hoping to a succesfull ''scrum down under tag merit league'' and good luck to all teams taking part

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I echo the sentiments on here. Having read through the rules, it clears up a lot of confusion felt by sides at games last year and hopefully, once the league gets going, everyone will be singing from the same hymn sheet.

And yes, it does seem weird for someone to be complaining about the rules not being none contact enough who is from a side who has problems keeping their levels of contact in control.

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Right then

I have read everything.

BOTH Sets of Rules have been written by myself, Coach and Tom with input from Oztag and RFL.

It was a agreed to have one main set and a variation set of rules for thoses teams who want the game slightly different thats all. No biggy. We are happy for any team to play both sets as long as boths teams agree. Refs will be trained to the main set of rules for TAG in general. The rules are practically identical.

The main differences areWhen agreed - hand offs and fending are allowed.

The player is allowed to stand their ground, they simply cant run and try to take the player out. Which has been allowed for years! Every attempt to get the tag must be made otherwise its a penatly.

Now relax, take a breath, dont worry about other teams. When organising your fixtures make sure you know exactly which set you are using.

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Feel free to compare to tagmeritleague.co.uk/laws.pdf

They are near identical. Law 11 has been expanded on the one online. Means the same thing!
Feel free to compare to tagmeritleague.co.uk/laws.pdf

They are near identical. Law 11 has been expanded on the one online. Means the same thing!


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Quote: davet "I dont see a problem with the rules personally. I've played about 75 or so games using these (or very similar rules) and there has never been a problem, aside from one incident against Rochdale, oddly enough, when someone started throwing punches. I would hope that was an isolated incident though.

I wonder how having no contact at all would work, but Id be willing to try it obviously. If you dont run directly at someone then thats fine, but what happens if the defence is tight enough for there to be no gaps? What happens if someone is running at a gap and then someone moves into the gap as the attacking player is focusing on his/her teamate who is passing them the ball, contact will be inevitable in some circumstances I think. In my opinion if some contact does happen then we should all be grown up enough not to go in a huff about it and start name calling.

In all honesty, despite all of mark2's postulating, Rochdale arent exactly the cleanest team I've played against. I dont want to stoop to a low level and begin a petty arguement but maybe you should start to practice what you preach and not use foul language whilst playing, that includes calling one of my team mates a fat f****r in the recent world club challenge tournament, despite the RFL being present.'"


and i was really insulted! No, really!!

After being the one on the end of one of your "punches" Mark, to say SWARM wont be having any contact at all is a bit rich. We played Leigh last season at their place and was one of the better games of the season despite us losing because it was played in the spirit that Rugby should be played in.

Might help us to remember what got us started watching rugby in the first place all those years ago and i bet it wasnt because there was the prospect of absolutely no contact in the games.

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Can I just add.....


...I am saying nowt. I have no opinion.

Just wanted to say "hi!", really.

So, [sizeHI![/size

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Quote: Shaw "Maybe his insistence on having no contact is an effort to protect everyone else from his fists of fury?'"



hahahaha

I just giggled and let out a little poop at that

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I think the key here is as long as you're are attempting to get the tags - so no bigs shoulders etc just to prove you're a big boy in the world of tag, and that you are in fact a full contact player. That said, contact is inevitable, you cant have any form of rugby without contact - introducing complicated rules to govern it wont work. Defenders have to attempt to make a tag - if they want to put themselves in the way so be it. Any defenders have no place putting their arms above the midrift (chris t should be excepted from this rule) - the tags are not there. Attackers should be allowed to prevent people from tagging - so that doesnt mean handing off in the mush (trying to make a good tag with fingers up your snout is difficult).

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     Mens Super League XXX-R7
20:00
Salford
v
Leeds
 Fri 11th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R6
09:00
St.George
v
Gold Coast
11:00
Brisbane
v
Sydney
     Mens Super League XXX-R7
20:00
Hull KR
v
Wigan
20:00
St.Helens
v
Wakefield
 Sat 12th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R6
06:00
Cronulla
v
Manly
08:30
Souths
v
NQL Cowboys
10:35
Parramatta
v
Canberra
       Championship 2025-R6
17:00
LondonB
v
Batley
     Mens Super League XXX-R7
17:30
Warrington
v
Hull FC
       Championship 2025-R6
18:00
Sheffield
v
Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXX-R7
20:00
Castleford
v
Leigh
 Sun 13th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R6
05:00
Melbourne
v
NZ Warriors
07:05
Newcastle
v
Wests
     Mens Super League XXX-R7
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Catalans
       Championship 2025-R6
15:00
Hunslet
v
Halifax
15:00
Oldham
v
Featherstone
15:00
Widnes
v
Barrow
15:00
York
v
Doncaster
 Thu 17th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R7
10:50
Manly
v
St.George
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
20:00
Wakefield
v
Castleford
 Fri 18th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R7
07:05
Canterbury
v
Souths
11:00
Dolphins
v
Melbourne
       League One 2025-R6
14:00
Midlands
v
Crusaders
       Championship 2025-R7
15:00
Barrow
v
LondonB
15:00
Batley
v
Hunslet
15:00
Doncaster
v
Sheffield
15:00
Featherstone
v
York
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Widnes
v
Oldham
       League One 2025-R6
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Newcastle
15:00
Rochdale
v
Swinton
15:00
Workington
v
Whitehaven
18:30
Keighley
v
Goole V
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
20:00
Hull FC
v
Hull KR
20:00
Wigan
v
St.Helens
20:00
Leeds
v
Huddersfield
 Sat 19th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R7
08:30
NZ Warriors
v
Brisbane
10:35
Sydney
v
Penrith
     Mens Super League XXX-R8
20:00
Leigh
v
Warrington
20:00
Catalans
v
Salford
 Sun 20th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R7
05:00
Gold Coast
v
Canberra
07:05
Newcastle
v
Cronulla
 Mon 21st Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R7
07:00
Wests
v
Parramatta
 Thu 24th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R8
10:50
Brisbane
v
Canterbury
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
20:00
Warrington
v
St.Helens
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull KR
 Fri 25th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R8
07:00
Sydney
v
St.George
09:05
NZ Warriors
v
Newcastle
11:10
Melbourne
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
20:00
Salford
v
Leigh
 Sat 26th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R8
08:30
NQL Cowboys
v
Gold Coast
10:35
Penrith
v
Manly
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
17:30
Catalans
v
Wakefield
       Championship 2025-R8
18:00
Featherstone
v
Toulouse
 Sun 27th Apr 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R8
05:00
Canberra
v
Dolphins
07:05
Wests
v
Cronulla
       League One 2025-R7
13:00
Cornwall
v
Keighley
14:30
Crusaders
v
Whitehaven
     Mens Super League XXX-R9
15:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
       Championship 2025-R8
15:00
Barrow
v
Doncaster
15:00
Halifax
v
LondonB
15:00
Oldham
v
Bradford
15:00
Sheffield
v
Batley
15:00
York
v
Widnes
       League One 2025-R7
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Rochdale
15:00
Newcastle
v
Goole V
15:00
Workington
v
Swinton
 Fri 2nd May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R9
09:00
Cronulla
v
Parramatta
11:05
Sydney
v
Dolphins
       League One 2025-R8
20:00
Newcastle
v
Workington
 Sat 3rd May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R9
06:00
Souths
v
Newcastle
08:30
NZ Warriors
v
NQL Cowboys
10:45
Wests
v
St.George
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
15:00
Leigh
v
Catalans
       League One 2025-R8
15:00
Rochdale
v
Goole V
       Championship 2025-R9
17:00
LondonB
v
York
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
17:15
Hull KR
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R9
18:00
Toulouse
v
Halifax
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
19:30
St.Helens
v
Leeds
 Sun 4th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R9
04:50
Gold Coast
v
Canterbury
07:05
Penrith
v
Brisbane
09:25
Melbourne
v
Canberra
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
13:00
Huddersfield
v
Hull FC
       League One 2025-R8
13:00
Cornwall
v
Midlands
       Championship 2025-R9
15:00
Batley
v
Barrow
15:00
Bradford
v
Sheffield
15:00
Doncaster
v
Oldham
15:00
Hunslet
v
Widnes
       League One 2025-R8
15:00
Swinton
v
Crusaders
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Dewsbury
     Mens Super League XXX-R10
15:15
Wigan
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Wakefield
 Thu 8th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R10
10:50
Parramatta
v
Dolphins
 Fri 9th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R10
09:00
Newcastle
v
Gold Coast
11:00
Souths
v
Brisbane
 Sat 10th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R10
06:00
Canberra
v
Canterbury
08:30
St.George
v
NZ Warriors
10:35
NQL Cowboys
v
Penrith
       Championship 2025-R10
17:00
Oldham
v
Toulouse
 Sun 11th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R10
05:00
Melbourne
v
Wests
07:05
Manly
v
Cronulla
       League One 2025-R9
14:30
Crusaders
v
Newcastle
       Championship 2025-R10
15:00
Batley
v
Bradford
15:00
Halifax
v
Doncaster
15:00
LondonB
v
Sheffield
15:00
Widnes
v
Featherstone
15:00
York
v
Hunslet
       League One 2025-R9
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Cornwall
15:00
Keighley
v
Workington
15:00
Rochdale
v
Midlands
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Goole V
 Thu 15th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
St.Helens
v
Catalans
 Fri 16th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R11
09:00
Newcastle
v
Parramatta
11:00
Canterbury
v
Sydney
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
20:00
Leeds
v
Hull FC
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Sat 17th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R11
06:00
Dolphins
v
NZ Warriors
08:30
NQL Cowboys
v
Manly
10:35
Cronulla
v
Melbourne
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
Hull KR
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 18th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R11
05:00
Brisbane
v
St.George
07:05
Canberra
v
Gold Coast
09:15
Wests
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R11
15:00
Wakefield
v
Warrington
17:30
Castleford
v
Salford
 Thu 22nd May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R12
10:50
Canterbury
v
Dolphins
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Leigh
v
Hull FC
 Fri 23rd May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R12
11:00
Parramatta
v
Manly
       Championship 2025-R11
19:30
Sheffield
v
Hunslet
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
20:00
Huddersfield
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
Hull KR
 Sat 24th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R12
08:30
Penrith
v
Newcastle
10:35
Sydney
v
Cronulla
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
14:30
Castleford
v
Leeds
17:30
Catalans
v
Wigan
       Championship 2025-R11
18:00
Toulouse
v
Barrow
 Sun 25th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R12
07:05
NZ Warriors
v
Canberra
       League One 2025-R10
14:00
Midlands
v
Whitehaven
     Mens Super League XXX-R12
15:00
Wakefield
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R11
15:00
Bradford
v
Widnes
15:00
Doncaster
v
LondonB
15:00
Featherstone
v
Batley
15:00
Oldham
v
Halifax
       League One 2025-R10
15:00
Keighley
v
Crusaders
15:00
Rochdale
v
Newcastle
15:00
Swinton
v
Cornwall
15:00
Workington
v
Goole V
 Thu 29th May 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Leigh
 Fri 30th May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R13
11:00
St.George
v
Newcastle
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
20:00
Hull KR
v
St.Helens
20:00
Salford
v
Wigan
 Sat 31st May 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R13
06:00
Gold Coast
v
Melbourne
08:30
Gold Coast
v
Melbourne
08:30
NQL Cowboys
v
Wests
10:35
Manly
v
Brisbane
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
14:30
Leeds
v
Wakefield
       Championship 2025-R12
17:00
LondonB
v
Widnes
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
17:30
Catalans
v
Hull FC
       Championship 2025-R12
18:00
Batley
v
Toulouse
 Sun 1st Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R13
05:00
Souths
v
NZ Warriors
07:05
Penrith
v
Parramatta
09:15
Sydney
v
Canberra
       League One 2025-R11
13:00
Cornwall
v
Goole V
14:00
Midlands
v
Swinton
14:30
Crusaders
v
Rochdale
     Mens Super League XXX-R13
15:00
Warrington
v
Castleford
       Championship 2025-R12
15:00
Barrow
v
Featherstone
15:00
Doncaster
v
Bradford
15:00
Hunslet
v
Oldham
15:00
York
v
Sheffield
       League One 2025-R11
15:00
Newcastle
v
Keighley
15:00
Workington
v
Dewsbury
 Thu 5th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R14
10:50
Newcastle
v
Manly
 Fri 6th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R14
09:00
Melbourne
v
NQL Cowboys
11:00
Dolphins
v
St.George
 Sat 7th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R14
07:00
Canterbury
v
Parramatta
08:30
Cronulla
v
NZ Warriors
10:35
Brisbane
v
Gold Coast
 Sun 8th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R14
05:00
Canberra
v
Souths
07:05
Wests
v
Penrith
 Thu 12th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R15
10:50
Cronulla
v
St.George
 Fri 13th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R15
11:00
Gold Coast
v
Manly
       League One 2025-R12
19:00
Dewsbury
v
Goole V
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
20:00
Hull FC
v
Castleford
20:00
Hull KR
v
Catalans
 Sat 14th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R15
08:30
Newcastle
v
Sydney
10:35
NQL Cowboys
v
Dolphins
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Wigan
17:30
Leeds
v
Warrington
 Sun 15th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R15
07:05
Souths
v
Canterbury
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
14:30
Wakefield
v
Leigh
       League One 2025-R12
14:30
Crusaders
v
Midlands
     Mens Super League XXX-R14
15:00
Salford
v
St.Helens
       Championship 2025-R13
15:00
Barrow
v
Sheffield
15:00
Batley
v
Doncaster
15:00
Bradford
v
York
15:00
Featherstone
v
Hunslet
15:00
Widnes
v
Halifax
15:00
Toulouse
v
LondonB
       League One 2025-R12
15:00
Keighley
v
Rochdale
15:00
Swinton
v
Workington
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Cornwall
 Thu 19th Jun 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R15
20:00
Castleford
v
Hull KR
 Fri 20th Jun 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R16
11:00
Wests
v
Canberra
       Championship 2025-R14
19:45
Bradford
v
Batley
     Mens Super League XXX-R15
20:00
St.Helens
v
Leeds
20:00
Wakefield
v
Wigan
       Championship 2025-R14
20:00
Featherstone
v
Halifax
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Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield-St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
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